X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 50 [XX] (100%) URL: contains host with port number Return-Path: Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.68] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with ESMTP id 1974116 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 08 Apr 2007 08:09:59 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.68; envelope-from=atlasyts@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([70.149.3.214]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20070408120907.CGPH25613.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 08:09:07 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.247] (really [70.149.3.214]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20070408120907.BIZW22736.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.247]> for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 08:09:07 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1216709C-ED24-4DCF-83A0-74414A79F521@bellsouth.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bulent Aliev Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis full power fuel burn / EC2 injector driver change Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 08:09:06 -0400 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) I don't remember exactly Mark, but I know it is much lower than 36. WIsh I had a data logger :) Buly On Apr 8, 2007, at 7:58 AM, Mark Steitle wrote: > Buly, > Out of curiousity, what FP do you see at idle? > > Mark S. > > > On 4/8/07, Bulent Aliev wrote: Mark, I set > my FP with engine off at around 36 psi. > Buly > On Apr 8, 2007, at 1:17 AM, Mark Steitle wrote: > > > David, > > If you don't mind me asking, how did you go about adjusting your > > fuel pressure regulator? I ask because I had mine set too high, > > but thought it was correct. I never could get it to run well in > > the lower rpm range. When I reduced the pressure I was finally > > able to get the engine to run better than ever. It ran great at > > high speed and would even idle smoothly down to 900 -1000 rpm. > > With the manifold referenced pressure regulator, the fuel pressure > > will change depending on MAP. If I'm correct, you should set it > > with the engine not running. If you set it with the engine > > running, your actual pressures will be way too high, causing tuning > > issues. > > > > Mark S. > > > > > > On 4/7/07, David Leonard wrote: > > Tracy, > > > > Cool, this is the first I have heard of the injector drive update > > and I am hopeful that it might be the key to my idle problems. I > > have done a lot of fiddling and still cant beat it. I am > > particularly interested to hear what kind of idle issues it fixes, > > to see if it sounds like mine. > > > > My problem consists of constantly wandering mixture need... (the O2 > > bar is constantly wandering full scale without change in throttle, > > load, or mixture setting). I have frequent misses, and I have to > > run my fuel pressure as low as my regulator can be set (about 32 > > psi at idle) or the problem gets worse. > > > > The weirdest thing occurs at shutdown. I shutdown by turning off > > the fuel pump. When I do that, the engine runs silky-smoothly for > > a second or two before stopping. > > > > That made me concerned there might be some sort of electrical > > interference between the fuel pump and the EC2 since they were on > > the same buss. I moved the pump to a separate buss, tried a > > different pump, tried another buss, and installed a capacitor but > > none of that seemed to have any effect. > > > > Do you think it would be worth sending my EC2 in for the new > upgrade? > > > > -- > > > > David Leonard > > > > Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY > > N4VY.RotaryRoster.net > > www.RotaryRoster.net > > leonardiniraq.blogspot.com > > > > > > On 4/6/07, Tracy Crook wrote: > > > > EC2 injector drive snubber update. > > > > On the subject of the injector driver snubber change, I had hoped > > to make it an easy to do in the field thing but it did not turn out > > that way. The physical change is fairly simple (adds a single part > > to the board) but the change in injector drive pulse width > > requirement was so radical that it is beyond the current range of > > the injector flow rate adjustment (Mode 3). This requires an > > update to the EC2 software so it has to be done here : ( > > > > The same thing applies to the EM2 since it determines the fuel flow > > by looking at the injector pulse on time. It could not be > > recalibrated to compensate for the change so it's software had to > > be updated as well. > > > > OTOH, if you are currently flying the EC2 and/or EM2 and you are > > happy with the way it is running, there is no pressing need to > > change anything. This is not a safety of flight issue. > > > > This change is only necessary if you are finding it impossible to > > get the engine to run smoothly at idle. Note that this is not the > > only thing that can cause rough idle so only do this as a last > > resort to fix idle problems. > > > > Since I only today got the EM2 software changes installed, I still > > do not know if there is any fuel burn improvements as a result of > > the snubber change. All EC2s shipped since March 20 have this > > change incorporated. > > > > Tracy > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/ > flyrotary/List.html >