X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 50 [XX] (67%) URL: contains host with port number (33%) BODY: text/html email has no html tag Return-Path: Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.241] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7) with ESMTP id 1927727 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:58:34 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.132.241; envelope-from=rotary.thjakits@gmail.com Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c34so888074anc for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 07:57:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=A3EYb2ZRKVhZNbcbqnfYJzuMvIXQ5qNg+UZDNtUCYdhHcRcuvQGX8Q70dCf9RC8xx3R88JMNESJSwEi77BheEY1lJub+/I4kfTlwJKyuAIPGQ/pVIpJsgSYbhTyyRIZo1KRLQcDizHKn4Ryl78Buscd75jPcQdxTtKisDQSFwlg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=D54Jw4cTC2LliERgKDiDOdgSUL0/Sur7xTyaTZoNlLV5u2yfc71nX+RJINQl+CiDEwd+Bt/7o5W9qrqPVC9m59Gg/SgHHfCbGwQN9uBqw4jFl6Q/DGA5s2n+qtX1WOJHCU20p6untd3j/xrSET4HA//UnDyqP4xhaYWAE/queAs= Received: by 10.100.94.3 with SMTP id r3mr2953786anb.1174229868382; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 07:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.195.12 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 07:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <63163d560703180757i4033b906tc5338f47cf6454db@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:57:48 -0500 From: "Thomas Jakits" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Jet-A In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_123799_8320547.1174229868310" References: ------=_Part_123799_8320547.1174229868310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Well, I think Bill wants to use the Siemens system. This is a Bosch 4-plunger - I think here every injector has its own Pump (plunger) The newer systems run like a regular EFI - one pressurized rail and the injectors control the fuel... However this guy treats a Diesel injection pump overhaul like it is a oil-change!! :) "And *voila*, we're done. All we have to do is bolt it into ......" :))) Thomas J. On 3/17/07, Charlie England wrote: > > WRJJRS@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 3/12/2007 4:24:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > rotary.thjakits@gmail.com writes: > > > > Well, then you should get the newest of the new - emissions and > all!! > > > > Thomas > > > > Thomas, > > Many of the German cars are now meeting high emission control levels. > > They were late to the table emissions wise but have hit it with a > > vengence. I heard that in the Ruhr valley that they were forcing > > alternate day use the smog was so bad. (even plates on even days, odd > > plates, odd days) I don't know about current levels. The Audis were > > first to use the Siemens system, they are a bit more adventurous than > > Merc. I believe D-B is developing their own system in cooperation with > > Bosch. The Siemens injectors are piezo driven and have a phenomonal > > response time. They also can run with lower lubricity gasoline. I > > believe several Japanese cars also use the system under license. The > > thing is you need the injectors, the pump, (a new lightweight pump BTW), > > the plumbing and a control signal. I think Tracys unit will be able to > > drive these injectors! For emissons the profiles are very carefully > > developed. We won't need anything near that close, not needing to meet > > those standards. > > Bill Jepson > > > > Just stumbled across this site; Is this the pump for the Siemens > injection? > > > http://contrails.free.fr/engine_bosch_ve_en.php > > > Charlie > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > ------=_Part_123799_8320547.1174229868310 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Well,
 
I think Bill wants to use the Siemens system.
This is a Bosch 4-plunger - I think here every injector has its own Pump (plunger)
The newer systems run like a regular EFI - one pressurized rail and the injectors control the fuel...
 
However this guy treats a Diesel injection pump overhaul like it is a oil-change!! :)
 
"And voila, we're done. All we have to do is bolt it into ......" :)))
 
Thomas J.

 
On 3/17/07, Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net> wrote:
WRJJRS@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 3/12/2007 4:24:30 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> rotary.thjakits@gmail.com writes:
>
>     Well, then you should get the newest of the new - emissions and all!!
>
>     Thomas
>
> Thomas,
>  Many of the German cars are now meeting high emission control levels.
> They were late to the table emissions wise but have hit it with a
> vengence. I heard that in the Ruhr valley that they were forcing
> alternate day use the smog was so bad. (even plates on even days, odd
> plates, odd days) I don't know about current levels. The Audis were
> first to use the Siemens system, they are a bit more adventurous than
> Merc. I believe D-B is developing their own system in cooperation with
> Bosch. The Siemens injectors are piezo driven and have a phenomonal
> response time. They also can run with lower lubricity gasoline. I
> believe several Japanese cars also use the system under license. The
> thing is you need the injectors, the pump, (a new lightweight pump BTW),
> the plumbing and a control signal. I think Tracys unit will be able to
> drive these injectors! For emissons the profiles are very carefully
> developed. We won't need anything near that close, not needing to meet
> those standards.
> Bill Jepson



Just stumbled across this site; Is this the pump for the Siemens injection?

> http://contrails.free.fr/engine_bosch_ve_en.php


Charlie

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