X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 10 [X] Return-Path: Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.240] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7) with ESMTP id 1927599 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:39:49 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.132.240; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c34so879161anc for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 06:39:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=r1y8pvofSxLWDf1QTavPjNZvp5SLgb3IGv5qCYvz1BN31dG2FyiN1oqAR3dqWuVgdsiltKNwctGd9BGBAic05ylXLuzmLomGXHugnk5ZWia1G6csUBx5Xy3pLJ89rVUohninraF9zPHdde1jzTceED0qO6UY+/skowfJbok8Stw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Dx2P0Y5qXhKdsXSR69ygNG8Ee9AzC6Ew7kJVX/raNHlWNVyxY1U+BEXZYI8dAflueJ9jvpCV5dVUY8lFjLlxar2R4xzBoczNzXiuktdMp+m20SX87GHU4ylmU3MLwZkifnRAVPwdEx9TgRNKuP9U9gbn/5nnKDemOGEf72yiuAQ= Received: by 10.100.38.16 with SMTP id l16mr2890413anl.1174225141689; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 06:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.173.2 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 06:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5cf132c0703180639y61061a09x561e359dc91c7be0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 07:39:01 -0600 From: "Mark Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fiberfrax In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_106809_5394908.1174225141646" References: ------=_Part_106809_5394908.1174225141646 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Barry, I suggested that he try ACS. Later he said he checked and it wasn't listed. I guess I'll have to hold his hand and lead the way. (He's a retired CPA). Thanks, Mark On 3/18/07, Barry Gardner wrote: > > Mark, > > Both Aircraft Spruce and Wicks still show fiberfrax 24" wide in their > online catalogs. > > Barry Gardner > Wheaton, IL > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Mark Steitle > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Sunday, March 18, 2007 8:01 AM > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: pressure caps > > > Ed, > > Ever consider fixing the oil leak? ;-) > > I installed fiberfrax on my upper and lower cowl in the vicinity of the > exhaust system. It woks so well, I consider it a necessity. The adhesive > used for this stuff is different from anything I've ever used. Its more > like buttermilk than glue. But, once dry, it holds well. > > As a side note, an RV builder at my airport is looking to purchase some > fiberfrax, but hasn't been able to find it anywhere. My source is no longer > available. Can someone provide a good source so I can pass it along to this > guy? > > Mark S. > > > On 3/17/07, Ed Anderson wrote: > > > > My experience with fiberfax was not ideal. I lined the bottom of my > > cowling > > with it to protect the fiberglass from the heat of the exhaust - > > unfortunately, it absorbs oil like a wick and I was concerned about just > > that. Perhaps,if you cover the fiberfax with something like SS or > > anything > > to keep the oil away, then it may be OK. I also found it fairly > > fragile > > and easy to tear. 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Barry,
I suggested that he try ACS.  Later he said he checked and it wasn't listed.  I guess I'll have to hold his hand and lead the way.  (He's a retired CPA). 
 
Thanks,
Mark

 
On 3/18/07, Barry Gardner <barrygardner@gmail.com> wrote:
Mark,
 
Both Aircraft Spruce and Wicks still show fiberfrax 24" wide in their online catalogs.
 
Barry Gardner
Wheaton, IL
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 8:01 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: pressure caps

 
Ed,
 
Ever consider fixing the oil leak?  ;-) 
 
I installed fiberfrax on my upper and lower cowl in the vicinity of the exhaust system.  It woks so well, I consider it a necessity.  The adhesive used for this stuff is different from anything I've ever used.  Its more like buttermilk than glue.  But, once dry, it holds well. 
 
As a side note, an RV builder at my airport is looking to purchase some fiberfrax, but hasn't been able to find it anywhere.  My source is no longer available.  Can someone provide a good source so I can pass it along to this guy? 
 
Mark S.

 
On 3/17/07, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com > wrote:
My experience with fiberfax was not ideal.  I lined the bottom of my cowling
with it to protect the fiberglass from the heat of the exhaust -
unfortunately, it absorbs oil like a wick and I was concerned about just
that.  Perhaps,if you cover the fiberfax with something like SS or anything
to keep the oil away,  then it may be OK.   I also found it fairly fragile
and easy to tear.  Just my experience with it - YMMV

Ed

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Van Winkle" < dvanwinkle@royell.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" < flyrotary@lancaironline.net >
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 12:26 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: pressure caps


> John
>
> I believe Tracy and others have used the SS/Fiberfrax approach to protect
> the belly from exhaust heat and that is the approach that I plan to take
> with my rotary powered RV-9A.
>
> Dean Van Winkle
> Fus/Finish/FWF
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bulent Aliev" < atlasyts@bellsouth.net>
> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net >
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: pressure caps
>
>
>> John, I bought a 29 pound pressure cap MOROSO on ebay. It was cheaper
>> than any other place.
>> Buly
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 16, 2007, at 5:48 PM, John Downing wrote:
>>
>>> Al, I looked today and could not locate a pressure cap with more  than
>>> 16# capacity.  Mazdatrix has caps listed without the  pressure.  Where
>>> is the source for the higher pressure caps.  JohnD
>>>
>>>         At the moment scratching head on the simplest way to hang
>>> muffler on rubber mount from tube and fabric airframe.  I believe  I'll
>>> need some SS sheet w/fiber frax to ward off becoming a flaming  turkey
>>>
>>
>>
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