X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 30 [X] Return-Path: Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.231] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7) with ESMTP id 1927580 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:28:04 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.233.162.231; envelope-from=barrygardner@gmail.com Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i11so426560nzi for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 06:27:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=M+ClJI0X/lsNFPRSsnP7HnxwmTi6fFeL6hSg2ZdiMSDN4eKIpkgF2lumT4TJFJ5+8dkO+tCnQbLVLIm7FyIxZEMT5ArKGscIlYczon9Z8nhYUkn+qUltM7rBO7vN/Kusphj5NkXOgBla26Y1IdPayIibGMmwk0kHYPl436sAids= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=QIgNYhkBdZWe8GsOYCK7QAiUEf7jgxeBpSuXDg+fcvXf51Uo8KYdqiNjaAI2uquq9N0cpXwQg4iVUQPP2g5Si4oQTyv4EgfNbBwcjpK7qzCrXa1F3cFAdE0myCC3yYfAJ5dbGzOeyJTjBNbri3MmV4Ne8Vp7u3OELQvK3H3e83U= Received: by 10.35.64.8 with SMTP id r8mr8625037pyk.1174224433383; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 06:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from dellc400 ( [75.4.107.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id x72sm7044663pyg.2007.03.18.06.27.12; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 06:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <010a01c76961$1e7a6370$6601a8c0@dellc400> From: "Barry Gardner" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Fiberfrax Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 08:27:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0107_01C76937.35365760" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0107_01C76937.35365760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark, Both Aircraft Spruce and Wicks still show fiberfrax 24" wide in their = online catalogs. Barry Gardner Wheaton, IL ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 8:01 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: pressure caps Ed,=20 Ever consider fixing the oil leak? ;-) =20 I installed fiberfrax on my upper and lower cowl in the vicinity of = the exhaust system. It woks so well, I consider it a necessity. The = adhesive used for this stuff is different from anything I've ever used. = Its more like buttermilk than glue. But, once dry, it holds well. =20 As a side note, an RV builder at my airport is looking to purchase = some fiberfrax, but hasn't been able to find it anywhere. My source is = no longer available. Can someone provide a good source so I can pass it = along to this guy? =20 Mark S. =20 On 3/17/07, Ed Anderson wrote:=20 My experience with fiberfax was not ideal. I lined the bottom of my = cowling with it to protect the fiberglass from the heat of the exhaust -=20 unfortunately, it absorbs oil like a wick and I was concerned about = just that. Perhaps,if you cover the fiberfax with something like SS or = anything to keep the oil away, then it may be OK. I also found it fairly = fragile=20 and easy to tear. Just my experience with it - YMMV Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Van Winkle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 12:26 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: pressure caps > John > > I believe Tracy and others have used the SS/Fiberfrax approach to = protect=20 > the belly from exhaust heat and that is the approach that I plan = to take > with my rotary powered RV-9A. > > Dean Van Winkle > Fus/Finish/FWF > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bulent Aliev" > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: pressure caps > > >> John, I bought a 29 pound pressure cap MOROSO on ebay. It was = cheaper >> than any other place.=20 >> Buly >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 16, 2007, at 5:48 PM, John Downing wrote: >> >>> Al, I looked today and could not locate a pressure cap with more = than=20 >>> 16# capacity. Mazdatrix has caps listed without the pressure. = Where >>> is the source for the higher pressure caps. JohnD >>> >>> At the moment scratching head on the simplest way to = hang=20 >>> muffler on rubber mount from tube and fabric airframe. I = believe I'll >>> need some SS sheet w/fiber frax to ward off becoming a flaming = turkey >>> >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html=20 >> > > = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 38206 spam emails to date.=20 > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try SPAMfighter for free now! > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub:=20 > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/=20 Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0107_01C76937.35365760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mark,
 
Both Aircraft Spruce and Wicks still=20 show fiberfrax 24" wide in their online catalogs.
 
Barry Gardner
Wheaton, IL
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark = Steitle=20
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 = 8:01=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = pressure=20 caps

Ed,
 
Ever consider fixing the oil leak?  ;-) 
 
I installed fiberfrax on my upper and lower cowl in the vicinity = of the=20 exhaust system.  It woks so well, I consider it a = necessity.  The=20 adhesive used for this stuff is different from anything I've ever = used. =20 Its more like buttermilk than glue.  But, once dry, it holds = well. =20
 
As a side note, an RV builder at my airport is looking = to purchase=20 some fiberfrax, but hasn't been able to find it anywhere.  My = source is=20 no longer available.  Can someone provide a good source so I = can=20 pass it along to this guy? 
 
Mark S.

 
On 3/17/07, Ed=20 Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com&g= t;=20 wrote:=20
My=20 experience with fiberfax was not ideal.  I lined the = bottom of my=20 cowling
with it to protect the fiberglass from the heat of the = exhaust -=20
unfortunately, it absorbs oil like a wick and I was concerned = about=20 just
that.  Perhaps,if you cover the fiberfax with = something=20 like SS or anything
to keep the oil away,  then it may = be=20 OK.   I also found it fairly fragile
and easy to=20 tear.  Just my experience with it - = YMMV

Ed

-----=20 Original Message -----
From: "Dean Van Winkle" <dvanwinkle@royell.net>
To= :=20 "Rotary motors in aircraft" < flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent:=20 Saturday, March 17, 2007 12:26 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = pressure=20 caps


> John
>
> I believe Tracy and others = have=20 used the SS/Fiberfrax approach to protect
> the belly from = exhaust=20 heat and that is the approach that I plan to take
> with my = rotary=20 powered RV-9A.
>
> Dean Van Winkle
>=20 Fus/Finish/FWF
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> = From:=20 "Bulent Aliev" <atlasyts@bellsouth.net>
= >=20 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net=20 >
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM
> = Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: pressure caps
>
>
>> John, I = bought a=20 29 pound pressure cap MOROSO on ebay. It was cheaper
>> = than any=20 other place.
>>=20 Buly
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On = Mar 16,=20 2007, at 5:48 PM, John Downing wrote:
>>
>>> = Al, I=20 looked today and could not locate a pressure cap with = more  than=20
>>> 16# capacity.  Mazdatrix has caps listed = without=20 the  pressure.  Where
>>> is the = source for=20 the higher pressure=20 = caps.  JohnD
>>>
>>>   &= nbsp;    =20 At the moment scratching head on the simplest way to hang =
>>>=20 muffler on rubber mount from tube and fabric airframe.  I=20 believe  I'll
>>> need some SS sheet w/fiber = frax to=20 ward off becoming a=20 = flaming  turkey
>>>
>>
>>
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