X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 11 [X] Return-Path: Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.6) with ESMTP id 1857713 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:20:42 -0500 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=171.71.176.71; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from sj-dkim-7.cisco.com ([171.68.10.88]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 23 Feb 2007 05:19:26 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,211,1170662400"; d="scan'208"; a="362611961:sNHT46258684" Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com (sj-core-3.cisco.com [171.68.223.137]) by sj-dkim-7.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l1NDJQj0001683 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 05:19:26 -0800 Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id l1NDJFhq001899 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 05:19:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.38]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:19:15 -0500 Received: from [64.102.38.218] ([64.102.38.218]) by xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:19:15 -0500 Message-ID: <45DEE9D2.5020701@nc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:19:14 -0500 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@nc.rr.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.4.1 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: LED built into an ATC fuse References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Feb 2007 13:19:15.0010 (UTC) FILETIME=[36FE9220:01C7574D] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-7; header.From=echristley@nc.rr.com; dkim=neutral Marvin Kaye wrote: > > Here's how it works... let's assume this circuit is for a single 100 > watt landing light and the circuit is protected by a 10 amp fuse. > When you turn on the light virtually all of the voltage is dropped > across the light bulb because of its very low resistance (maybe 1.5 > ohms... 12v / 1.5 ohms = 8 amps). At this point there's just about a > direct short across the LED/resistor part of the circuit in the form > of the fuse (something like .1 ohm) so the current takes the path of > least resistance... just about all of it flows through the fuse, and > next to none through the LED and resistor. So the landing light is > dropping 11.99 volts, and there's maybe a 8-9 millivolt drop across > the LED/resistor, so there's nowhere near enough current there to > light the LED. Somewhere along the line we were working on our fuse > panel and accidentally put a 5 amp fuse in the landing light circuit. > We go to turn on the landing light and bango!, we blow the fuse. (100 > watts / 12 volts = 8 amps... the fuse gives up the ghost at 5, maybe a > little more.) The current path is now through the LED and resistor > instead of the fuse, so virtually all of the voltage is dropped by > them and there's maybe 15 millivolts left over for the landing light, > which is nowhere near enough for it to light up. The LED, however, is > merrily glowing away to let you know that the fuse has failed. Pretty > cool, eh? There is a catch. If the fuse is blown or removed _and_ > the circuit is powered down, (ie, the switch to the landing light is > off) the LED will not glow. The path through the load must be > complete for current to flow through the LED and resistor. As soon as > you flip that switch, though, the LED will light up telling you to > chech that fuse and life is good once again. Here's another option...lighted switches. There's a little LED in the bat handle of the toggle switch that lights when the switch is turned on. As long as the light comes on, I know that there is power coming into the switch (ie, the fuse is still good). It also works as a dandy reminder that something needs to be shut down on postflight. -- ,|"|"|, Ernest Christley | ----===<{{(oQo)}}>===---- Dyke Delta Builder | o| d |o http://ernest.isa-geek.org |