X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 2 [X] Return-Path: Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.200.83] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.6) with ESMTP id 1856297 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:28:49 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.200.83; envelope-from=rlwhite@comcast.net Received: from quail.site (c-68-35-160-229.hsd1.nm.comcast.net[68.35.160.229]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2007022221280201300n4h87e>; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 21:28:03 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:29:44 -0700 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Flooded plugs Message-Id: <20070222142944.1fe1e468.rlwhite@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.0beta4 (GTK+ 2.8.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:10:59 -0500 Bill Bradburry wrote: > I am gradually learning how to start my engine. When I began, I started > with a couple of taps on the primer and with the mixture set full rich. > I flooded the engine and that started a cycle of remove plugs, blow > the fuel out of them, fiddle with the mixture, cold start, or primer, > then try to start, remove plugs...etc.. > I was getting pretty frustrated....So I called Tracy! > One of the things he suggested was trying new plugs...So I bought a set, > but decided to clean the Renesis plugs in a sand blaster and try them > one more time. > I also decided to set the mixture about 1:30 instead of full..no joy...I > moved it to about 2:00...It tried to start!....I moved it to about > 3:00...RRRIIIPPPPP! Yea!! > I had been using too much fuel on my starting attempts and, as I read in > the archives, sometimes when the plugs foul, they will need a good > cleaning or replacement. Tracy tells me that sometimes after you get > the engine running with good plugs, it will also run if you put the bad > (cleaned) ones back in. > > Now...Who knows what factors affect the HP calculation that Tracy uses? > I still do not have the engine mixture properly trained, but I decided > to check my static RPM today. 2 Blade Performance prop..76X88. I only > got about 4200 RPM, but the HP at one time was at 257!!! :>) Without > the cowling on, the prop blast is directly into the throttle body and at > one time I also saw 31.5 inches of manifold pressure!! > This could turn into a lot of fun! I need to get back to trying to > build the plane..:<( > Any and all thoughts are welcome! > > Bill B > Hi Bill, I normally set the mixture to about 3:00 also with cold start on. When it's below 40 or so, I give the primer a couple of pushes, then open the throttle about half way with my hand on the know ready to pull it back. I haven't had to pull the plugs. I think Tracy's HP calculation is just based on fuel flow and the BSFC setting in the EM2. It seems like there was another parameter that modified it slightly but I can't remember what. I've never seen over 24 in. manifold pressure. This sucker should really go if I can get some air to it. Bob W. (Rotary engine suffering from hypoxia.) -- N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com First Flight: 11/23/2006 7:50AM - 3.3 Hours Total Time Cables for your rotary installation - http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/