X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 2 [X] Return-Path: Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.66] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.6) with ESMTP id 1854597 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:54:01 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.66; envelope-from=atlasyts@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([65.8.76.39]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20070222035305.ZUQT23183.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:53:05 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.104] (really [65.8.76.39]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20070222035304.YNDA29904.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.104]> for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:53:04 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bulent Aliev Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Another exploding cigar?? Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:53:03 -0500 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Allen, The plane you are building will make difference in your exhaust options. Tractor or pusher? Bulent "Buly" Aliev FXE Ft lauderdale, FL http://tinyurl.com/dcy36 On Feb 21, 2007, at 9:48 PM, Allen Slominski wrote: > Ed, > > I'm a newby to the rotary, but I understand that the temps are > pretty outrageous also. Somethink like 1700 to 1900 degrees F. > Does anyone have a spec or detail for exhaust systems? Mufflers > would be nice also. > > Allen Slominski > Houston, TX > > Ed Anderson wrote: > Hi Dave. > > Basically, the Swiss muffler is attributed to the tough noise > abatement rules of the Swiss government for aircraft - including > small GA and experimental. Tony Bingelis who wrote a column of > "How to" for Sport Aviation for years included it in one of his > books "FireWall Forward"-Page 112. > > The muffler (as shown in his book) was an aluminum tube 3 1/8" in > diameter about 4 -5 feet long. A stainless steel mesh was rolled > into a smaller diameter tube to be stuck in the middle after > fiberglass cloth was wrapped around the mesh tube. This was all > stuffed in the 3 1/8" aluminum tube making a very light weight and > effective muffler. Sort of a light weight glass-pack muffler. > > It was then hung under the belly of the aircraft. > > The problem for the rotary is that the exhaust pulse will pulverize > fiberglass (or almost anything else in short time). Again, the > problem is not the heat its the power of the exhaust pulse. > > Hope that explained it. > > > Ed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: david mccandless > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:44 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another exploding cigar?? > > On 22, Feb , at 6:29 AM, Ed Anderson wrote: > Thanks, Jason. > My experiments with the Swiss muffler did not work out - > Ed > Hi Ed, > could you explain "Swiss" muffler? > TIA, Dave >