X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 50 [XX] (67%) RECEIVED: IP not found on home country list (33%) BODY: contains text similar to "usd millions" Return-Path: Received: from [201.225.225.168] (HELO cwpanama.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.6) with ESMTP id 1845098 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:02:53 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=201.225.225.168; envelope-from=rijakits@cwpanama.net Received: from [201.224.94.164] (HELO usuario5ebe209) by frontend2.cwpanama.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 101217720 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:20:51 -0500 Message-ID: <002501c7535c$f414f7e0$a45ee0c9@usuario5ebe209> From: "Thomas y Reina Jakits" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: OFF Subject Re: [FlyRotary] 3 rotors & camera - off subject Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:01:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C75333.0B0F5460" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C75333.0B0F5460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kevin, WOW!!! A friend of mine has a somewhat "cheap" version, only about $200K = (Cineflex) on a somewhat more expensive tripod ($2.2M for a AS350B3 - = no, not the one I got checked out on....). The one in your photo seems = to be a B2 or BA. What is the brand of the gimbal/camara? I doubt that they ever have a need to go to 90=BA!! It is an awesome move though - on my checkout I was demo-ed a 70=AA = nose-down and a 110=AA roll over, after that a couple of level 70-80=AA = turns (there you really start to feel some g's! The 70=BA starts as a HOGE at around 2000' AOL and ends as a highspeed, = soft, pull out of the dive. The 110=BA starts as a highspeed climbing (20=BA) turn, bleeding off = speed at the top and just keep rolling and let the machine dive - no = pulling g's until pulling out of the dive. If you are ever in one of these maneuvers you start to feel sorry for = the camera! Your comments give me hope though that, if I ever have the chance to fly = a gimbal/camera like this, it would not be boring. Generally the producer want's you to be nothing than a steady tripod and = let the camera engineer do all the fun (yes, there is no more such = person like a camera-man on these things :)) On lower budget productions = the TV-camera is shoulder or bungee supported which prevents maximum use = of the zoom as shaking (from the helicopter, wind buffet, etc.) shows in = the picture - that means the camera/helo has to get close to the object. = The cameraman tries to keep the cam as steady as possible and generally = the helo does all the interesting moves - that's where I get the most = fun!! Best Regards, Thomas :) PS: The cineflex goes for about $6K per day, what this puppy? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: kevin lane=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 6:56 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] 3 rotors & camera - off subject never seen this before, a $1.5M camera and a $1.5M "tripod"! they are = filming downtown and stopped for fuel. can you believe they flew this 6 = hrs from LA.? (that's $9,000+ one way) the gyro mount can handle 110 = degrees of bank! (that's past vertical) the pilot admitted he's never = been past 90 however. kevin -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C75333.0B0F5460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kevin,
 
WOW!!!
 
A friend of mine has a somewhat "cheap" version, = only=20 about $200K (Cineflex) on a somewhat more expensive tripod ($2.2M for a = AS350B3=20 - no, not the one I got checked out on....). The one in your photo seems = to be a=20 B2 or BA.
 
What is the brand of the = gimbal/camara?
 
I doubt that they ever have a need to go to=20 90=BA!!
 
It is an awesome move though - on my checkout I = was=20 demo-ed a 70=AA nose-down and a 110=AA roll over, after that a couple of = level=20 70-80=AA turns (there you really start to feel some g's!
The 70=BA starts as a HOGE at around 2000' AOL = and ends as a=20 highspeed, soft, pull out of the dive.
The 110=BA starts as a highspeed climbing = (20=BA) turn,=20 bleeding off speed at the top and just keep rolling and let the machine = dive -=20 no pulling g's until pulling out of the dive.
If you are ever in one of these maneuvers you = start to=20 feel sorry for the camera!
 
Your comments give me hope though that, if I = ever have the=20 chance to fly a gimbal/camera like this, it would not be = boring.
Generally the producer want's you to be nothing = than a=20 steady tripod and let the camera engineer do all the fun (yes, there is = no more=20 such person like a camera-man on these things :)) On lower = budget=20 productions the TV-camera is shoulder or bungee supported which prevents = maximum=20 use of the zoom as shaking (from the helicopter, wind buffet, = etc.) shows=20 in the picture - that means the camera/helo has to get close to the = object. The=20 cameraman tries to keep the cam as steady as possible and generally the = helo=20 does all the interesting moves - that's where I get the most = fun!!
 
Best Regards,
 
Thomas :)
 
PS: The cineflex goes for about $6K per day, = what this=20 puppy?
 
 
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From:=20 kevin = lane=20
Sent: Saturday, February 17, = 2007 6:56=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] 3 rotors = &=20 camera - off subject

never seen this before, a = $1.5M camera=20 and a $1.5M "tripod"!  they are filming downtown and stopped for=20 fuel.  can you believe they flew this 6 hrs from LA.? (that's = $9,000+ one=20 way)  the gyro mount can handle 110 degrees of bank! (that's past = vertical)  the pilot admitted he's never been past 90=20 however.   kevin

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