X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 10 [X] Return-Path: Received: from bay0-omc1-s21.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.93] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.6) with ESMTP id 1835209 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:48:58 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.54.246.93; envelope-from=lors01@msn.com Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.250.78]) by bay0-omc1-s21.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Tue, 13 Feb 2007 08:48:09 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 08:48:09 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 4.171.150.225 by BAY115-DAV6.phx.gbl with DAV; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:48:06 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [4.171.150.225] X-Originating-Email: [lors01@msn.com] X-Sender: lors01@msn.com From: "Tracy Crook" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2 anomolies. Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:48:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_027E_01C74F64.D06B5F10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.50.0034.2000 Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:48:01 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2007 16:48:09.0241 (UTC) FILETIME=[BDD8F090:01C74F8E] Return-Path: lors01@msn.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_027E_01C74F64.D06B5F10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Glad the filter fixed the display problems Bob. Al's noise problem is a = completely different thing. The Hobbs problem sounds like you got the same software version glitch = that hit Al. The new version should fix that as well as many of the = intermittent alarm issues. =20 Buly, have you cancelled the alarm by pressing the Acknowledge button? = That should kill the alarm light even if something is out of limits. If = it keeps triggering, that means that something is continuously cycling = in and out of limits which triggers a new alarm cycle. Goes without = saying that all the limits should be set for your particular = installation. Tracy (back to RV-8 building) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bob White=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:26 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Apologies / progress >snip< The filter I added to the EM2 seems to have fixed the noise problem. My wife just asked me how my computer was working. She meant the EM2. I didn't even get the connection and thought she was talking about my PC. I have noticed that sometimes when I page up or down, the manifold pressure goes to 1499 and triggers the alarm. Also the various timers don't seem to work right. Hobbs time runs all the time regardless of air speed and I can't reset it either. I still haven't installed the last update prom though so will do that before deciding it isn't working. Keep plugging away. Bob W. =20 (Another plodder wishing I had a small fraction of Rusty's energy and dedication.) On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:13:16 -0500 "Tracy Crook" > wrote: > MessageAnd Rusty, should apologize for making me feel like a = complete stone. He starts building his RV-8 over 4 years after me, = finishes and flies it, then put it up for sale, all before mine is = done. A pox on you Rusty! BTW, I still can't figure out how people = part with something that takes so much blood, sweat & tears to build. = Maybe I'm overly prone to developing emotional attachments to machines. >=20 > But mine is coming along after deciding to devote some uninterrupted = "RV-8 only" days on it. Still waiting on Blue Mountain to return the = EFIS 1 from updating before I can re-install the panel. Fly-by-wire = finally finished.=20 >=20 > I always underestimate the time required to integrate and package = stuff. The power lever position sensor alone took a full week to design = and prototype. Came out really neat though and I think I will like the = very light feel of the throttle control made possible by the FBW = approach. I did retain the variable friction adjustment on the quadrant = just in case it feels wrong to have so little resistance. >=20 > Did a few of the inevitable re-dos on several coolant fittings and = plugs that leaked. As much as I like J B Weld and epoxy putty, NEVER = use it to plug unused coolant ports like the heater port and the rotor = housing coolant ports on turbo housings. They will always develop = hair-line leaks around the perimeter after a few thermal cycles. >=20 > Tracy =20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Russell = Duffy>=20 > To: Rotary motors in = aircraft>=20 > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 11:05 AM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: wire routing >=20 >=20 > apologize for my ingnorance: >=20 > As well you should :-) >=20 > Who is John Cleese? >=20 > John Cleese is one of the funniest men of all times. He is best = known as a member of Monty Python, but has done lots of other work as = well, including the Fawlty Towers show, which was just hilarious. =20 >=20 > = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cleese> >=20 > Cheers, > Rusty (Ni, Ni) >=20 >=20 --=20 N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - = http://www.bob-white.com First Flight: 11/23/2006 7:50AM - 2.4 Hours Total Time Cables for your rotary installation - = http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/ -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ ------=_NextPart_000_027E_01C74F64.D06B5F10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Glad the filter fixed the display problems Bob.  Al's noise = problem is=20 a completely different thing.
 
The Hobbs problem sounds like you got the same software version = glitch that=20 hit Al.  The new version should fix that as well as many of the=20 intermittent alarm issues. 
 
Buly, have you cancelled the alarm by pressing the Acknowledge=20 button?  That should kill the alarm light even if something is out = of=20 limits.  If it keeps triggering, that means that something is = continuously=20 cycling in and out of limits which triggers a new alarm = cycle.  =20 Goes without saying that all the limits should be set for your = particular=20 installation.
 
Tracy (back to RV-8 building)
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob White
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Sent: Saturday, February 10, = 2007 12:26=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Apologies /=20 progress
 
>snip<

The filter I added to the EM2 seems to have fixed the noise=20 problem.
My wife just asked me how my computer was working.  = She meant=20 the
EM2.  I didn't even get the connection and thought she was = talking
about my PC.  I have noticed that sometimes when I = page up or=20 down,
the manifold pressure goes to 1499 and triggers the = alarm.  Also=20 the
various timers don't seem to work right.  Hobbs time runs = all the=20 time
regardless of air speed and I can't reset it either.  I = still=20 haven't
installed the last update prom though so will do that = before=20 deciding
it isn't working.

Keep plugging away.

Bob = W. =20
(Another plodder wishing I had a small fraction of Rusty's energy=20 and
dedication.)



On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:13:16=20 -0500
"Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com> = wrote:

>=20 MessageAnd  Rusty, should apologize for making me feel  like = a=20 complete stone.   He starts building his RV-8 over 4 years = after me,=20 finishes and flies it,  then put it up for sale, all before mine = is=20 done.  A pox on you Rusty!   BTW, I still can't figure=20 out  how people  part with something that takes so much = blood, sweat=20 & tears to build.  Maybe I'm overly prone to developing = emotional=20 attachments to machines.
>
> But mine is coming along = after=20 deciding to devote some uninterrupted  "RV-8 only" days on=20 it.   Still waiting on Blue Mountain to return the EFIS 1 = from=20 updating before I can re-install the panel.  Fly-by-wire finally=20 finished.
>
>  I  always underestimate the = time=20 required to integrate and package stuff.  The power lever = position sensor=20 alone took a full week to design and prototype.   Came out = really=20 neat though and I think I will like the very light feel of the = throttle=20 control made possible by the FBW approach.  I did retain the = variable=20 friction adjustment on the quadrant just in case it feels wrong to = have so=20 little resistance.
>
> Did a few of the inevitable re-dos = on=20 several coolant fittings and plugs that leaked.   As much as = I like=20 J B Weld and epoxy putty,  NEVER use it to plug unused coolant = ports like=20 the heater port and the rotor housing coolant ports on turbo = housings. =20 They will always develop hair-line leaks around the perimeter after a = few=20 thermal cycles.
>
> Tracy   =
>   -----=20 Original Message -----
>   From: Russell Duffy<mailto:rusty@radrotary.com> =
>   To: Rotary motors in aircraft<mailto:flyrotary@lancaironlin= e.net>=20
>   Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 11:05=20 AM
>   Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: wire routing
> =
>=20
>   apologize for my ingnorance:
> =
>  =20 As well you should :-)
>
>   Who is John=20 Cleese?
>
>   John Cleese is one of the = funniest men of=20 all times.  He is best known as a member of Monty Python, but has = done=20 lots of other work as well, including the Fawlty Towers show, which = was just=20 hilarious. 
>
>   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cleese<http://en.w= ikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cleese>
>=20
>   Cheers,
>   Rusty (Ni, = Ni)
>=20
>


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