X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail29.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.132.171] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.5) with ESMTPS id 1454252 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:00:57 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.132.171; envelope-from=lendich@optusnet.com.au Received: from george (d211-31-173-116.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.31.173.116]) by mail29.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id k9AL0UaT018476 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 07:00:31 +1000 Message-ID: <000401c6ecaf$2263b6f0$74ad1fd3@george> From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Exhaust Update Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 07:00:34 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0641-1, 10/10/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Ken/Buly, That should have read 4 tacks of reasonable length " on the outside", in case there was confusion. However those in the know seem to be 'singing from the same sheet of music' so there is a strong consensus here. George ( down under) > Ken/Buly, > The Mazda's high heat has proven to cause cracking at the joint of the > exhaust flange to the exhaust pipe UNLESS there is room to expand and > contract due to the heat cycling. Welding the inside and only having four > tack welds of a reasonable length, have proven to be satisfactory and > better than full welding inside and outside the flange. > There are other methods which separate the pipe from the flange - such as > the motorbike style fitting, where you have a small round tapered flange > which is captured by the larger flange( clamping action), as it is bolted > up. This would be my preferred style of fitting, which would completely > eliminate the pipe cracking problem. The muffler would need to be > supported independently, which is the preferred method anyway. > George ( down under) > >> On Oct 9, 2006, at 11:15 PM, kenpowell@comcast.net wrote: >> >>> Hi Joe, >>> Just a heads up - it looks like your new "header flange to pipe" >>> (picture 5) was welded on the outside. I think that 'acceptable >>> practices' state that there should only be a tack weld on the outside >>> and the actual structural weld should be on the inside. What does >>> everyone else say? In any event be sure to keep an eye on the welds. >>> >>> Ken Powell >>> Bryant, Arkansas >>> 501-847-4721 >>> C150 / RV-4 under construction >> >> Ken, I had the chance to inspect hundreds of aircraft exhaust systems >> from C-150 to the big twins. On 99% of them the flange is welded on the >> outside. I have seen only one model aircraft that requires welding on >> the inside only? >> Buly >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/