X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.132.199] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.5) with ESMTPS id 1454249 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:46:52 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.132.199; envelope-from=lendich@optusnet.com.au Received: from george (d211-31-173-116.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.31.173.116]) by mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id k9AKkQAZ015703 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 06:46:27 +1000 Message-ID: <000c01c6ecad$2b1a5080$74ad1fd3@george> From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Exhaust Update Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 06:46:30 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0641-1, 10/10/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Ken/Buly, The Mazda's high heat has proven to cause cracking at the joint of the exhaust flange to the exhaust pipe UNLESS there is room to expand and contract due to the heat cycling. Welding the inside and only having four tack welds of a reasonable length, have proven to be satisfactory and better than full welding inside and outside the flange. There are other methods which separate the pipe from the flange - such as the motorbike style fitting, where you have a small round tapered flange which is captured by the larger flange( clamping action), as it is bolted up. This would be my preferred style of fitting, which would completely eliminate the pipe cracking problem. The muffler would need to be supported independently, which is the preferred method anyway. George ( down under) > On Oct 9, 2006, at 11:15 PM, kenpowell@comcast.net wrote: > >> Hi Joe, >> Just a heads up - it looks like your new "header flange to pipe" >> (picture 5) was welded on the outside. I think that 'acceptable >> practices' state that there should only be a tack weld on the outside >> and the actual structural weld should be on the inside. What does >> everyone else say? In any event be sure to keep an eye on the welds. >> >> Ken Powell >> Bryant, Arkansas >> 501-847-4721 >> C150 / RV-4 under construction > > Ken, I had the chance to inspect hundreds of aircraft exhaust systems > from C-150 to the big twins. On 99% of them the flange is welded on the > outside. I have seen only one model aircraft that requires welding on the > inside only? > Buly > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/