Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #32814
From: Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Cooling coupling
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:44:07 -0700
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

I’m thinking about this regarding cooling on the ground, and if I’m going to work on reducing one or the other, which might have the greater benefit.  As it is now, the oil gets to 220F about the time the coolant gets to 210F.  Options under consideration are a fan behind the

 

Coolant temp out of control can crush the rotor housings. I would work on the water first.

Use a synthetic oil in the sump, and an OMP adaptor for 2 cycle oil in the housings. 

We use RedLine 40 Wt. racing oil in the sump and RedLine racing 2 cycle in a premix, but there are less expensive Synthetics.

 

Coolant is distilled water with 10% antifreeze and a bottle of Water-Wetter and a 22 pound pressure cap.

 

Lynn E. Hanover

Lynn;

 

I understand that we can abuse the oil a bit, and out-of-control coolant temp is a disaster.  The question this raises is the oil temp limit not being the oil, but the risk to the side seals of oil temps over about 220F for more than very short period.

 

On my last fill I put in about 20% anti-freeze in distilled water, and I use a 23# cap.  No water wetter or soap at this point.

 

For my coolant I do get some air flow through the rad due to negative pressure created by the prop.  And I have an ace in the hole that I haven’t used yet (just simply hadn’t thought about it) which is the cabin heater with a centrifugal blower. I’m guessing that for ground ops this would add significant heat rejection.  Problem is heat is dumped into the cabin, but on the ground there is always the option of the open door.

 

The oil cooler, which is in the wing, gets no air flow beyond natural convection (negligible through the 3” thick core) except that caused by movement of the airplane. So I have proceeded with the installation of a water spray system.  Based on taxi testing, I really don’t expect to need except for initial flight testing, or other unusual circumstances.  Hope to check it out in a couple of days.

 

Had a couple of weeks delay to due an intermittent problem with the EC2.  Tracy persevered in discovering that it had to do with new chips added to the old board as part of a software upgrade we did a few months ago.  Unit should be back tomorrow.

 

Al

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