Great! I have a nephew near my age in San Antonio = that is a=20 grandchild of my father's first marriage in 1910 that I have never met = face to=20 face. Found him after 55 years through genealogy research and keep = planning on going to visit him, so this would be perfect. =

Thanks Chris

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 CBarber
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft

Sent: Saturday, September 20, = 2003 5:18=20 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Turbomania

New Braunfels is about 25 miles = North of=20 San Antonio and about 40ish miles South of Austin on Interstate = 35. =20 FWIW, it is about 2.5 to 3 hours West of Houston by car.

Really hope to see y'all there=20 <g>

All the best,

Chris

Christopher Barber
Attorney and Counselor at = Law
11930 S=20 Sam Houston Pkwy E
Suite 103
Houston, Texas = 77089-4755
281-464-LAWS=20 (5297)

"Serving the needs of Senior=20 = Texans"

CBarber@TexasAttorney.net
www.TexasAttorney.net =

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 3:56 = PM
To:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re:=20 Turbomania

Thanks, Chris

    I'll know better as the date=20 approaches. Never been there, but have been to Austin and San=20 Antonio. I know I could look it up on a map but how far = would you=20 say it is from San Antonio?

Well, you have a couple of Texas Rotary Flying = now, and I=20 am going to try my best to be there and I suspect Tracy Crook will = to. =20 May be even more I am unaware of.

So I'll keep you in mind for any questions as = the date=20 approaches.

Best Regards

Ed

----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 CBarber
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20

Sent: Saturday, September = 20, 2003=20 3:16 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re:=20 Turbomania

Ed,

Just a word of = encouragement....would=20 love to see you and others at SWRFI. I have a number of = folks who=20 are interested in the engine choice, but they would really like to = see=20 flying craft. Its new venue in New Braunfel, TX (between = Austin and=20 San Antonio) was a great choice. Really great=20 destination. I just returned yesterday from a yearly trek = (it is so=20 nice, it wasn't even aviation related and took me away from = working on my=20 newly delivered wing kit, ...just hammock piloting, rivering and = jet=20 skiing). I don't think I will be flying yet, but I will be a = lot=20 closer to flight <g>.

If you need info on the = area, let me=20 know. I know it pretty well (attended undergrad nearby). The = Faust=20 historic hotel is very reasonable and very nice (IMHO, much nicer=20 and better bang for the buck than the cookie cutter=20 chains).FWIW.

All the best,

Chris

www.LoneStarVelocity.com

Christopher Barber
Attorney and Counselor at=20 Law
11930 S Sam Houston Pkwy E
Suite 103
Houston, Texas=20 77089-4755
281-464-LAWS (5297)

"Serving the needs of = Senior=20 = Texans"

CBarber@TexasAttorney.net
www.TexasAttorney.net =

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of = Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 9:44=20 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: Turbomania

Hi Bill,

    No, I have not. I = have=20 thought about it on the ground, but always seem to forget in the = air. I guess part of it is that I think I have found good = timing=20 for power on takeoff and climb and just don't want to mess with=20 that. But, now that I think of it I presume that I could = mess with=20 the timing on the "B" controller and leave the "A" controller = where it=20 is, Hummmm.

I think I will check with Tracy to make = certain=20 screwing with the timing on one processor won't screw it up on = the=20 other. I am 99% certain - buuuttttt want to be = sure.

I am going to put the presentation on my = website=20 (well, actually I dont' have my own, but a guy by name of Don = Mack has=20 hosted my stuff for 4 years. Perhaps he won't mind adding = some=20 more.

In any case, I will probably make hardcopy = for a=20 nominal fee (cover my costs) for those interested.

I've actually copyrighted the presentation = and=20 officially registered it with the Library of Congress = CopyRight=20 Office. I don't know if anything similar was even done by the = Mazda=20 engineers. We know they did a lot of cut and try=20 experimenting. Like for the 1990 VDIE manifold the to the = 1988 NA=20 DIE manifold and changed its length in 200mm segments and then = ran dyno=20 curves. Then they chose the segment lengths that gave them = the=20 curves they wanted. So they may never have set down and worked = out the=20 equations - what need had they when they had the resources to=20 emperically derive what they wanted {:>)

Hell, I might find little guys dress all in = black=20 swinging long sharp swords at my neither region {:>). I = might=20 accused of industrial spying {:>)

Well, going to also go to SERFI at = Evergreen, Al in=20 early October. Plan on meeting Tracy there and having him = give my=20 work a santity check. I sort of probed Paul Lamar, but = without=20 even seeing a single slide, he started telling me that I would = have a=20 "hard sell". I guess that is because he has "gone on the = record"=20 with an email telling folks not to copy anything I was doing = manifold=20 wise, because it would "hurt" engine performance at aircraft = rpms. =20 Well, he was wrong, but at the time there was nothing I had to = show=20 that. I now do {:>). It might need a little = twicking on a=20 couple of the parameter values, but the logic and equation = derivation is=20 straight foward. No tricks up the sleeve, no magic hats - = its all=20 laid out for anyone who can follow simple high school algebra = (and even=20 if they can't) will understand.

Keep trying to tell some of these folks that = just=20 because an intake system is advertised (even honestedly) that it = will=20 produce 220 HP at 8000 hp, doesn't mean that it will work for an = aircraft (unless we can find a way to shift gears). But, I = went=20 that route early on so it take some time and poor experiences to = help=20 you find the path.

Good hearing from you, Bill. I am = going to try=20 and make the SWRFI next year as I have a long lost nephew living = near=20 that area.

Take care and good flying

Best Regards

Ed

----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Bill=20 Eslick
To: Rotary motors in=20 aircraft

Sent: Friday, September = 19, 2003=20 8:34 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] = Re:=20 Turbomania

Ed,

Have you ever tweedled with the timing while at = cruise=20 RPM? I didn't think to try that, but I may.

Unfortunately work precludes the Shady Bend = attendance this=20 time. Rats again.

I am really looking forward to somehow taking in = your=20 presentation on intake manifolds.

Bill

Hi Bill

    = Thanks for=20 the great report. Glad to hear the = new=20 manifold is working out so well. = Yes, that=20 old spark plug SAG (Sparkplug Attention = Getter)=20 will certainly get your attention - ruined = more=20 than one seat cusion myself from it. = I've=20 got myself a spark plug cleaner (if I can = find=20 where I misplaced it) that I want to use = to clear=20 some of the numerous spark plugs I have = saved to=20 see if I can't get some more hours out of=20 them.

I wouldn't = worry about=20 not matching Tracy's fuel profile - I = can't=20 either. I can cruise at 170 TAS and = burn=20 mabye as low as 7.25- 7.5 gph but no = lower. =20 I think Tracy can get even higher cruise = TAS with=20 6 - 6.5 GPH. I think part of it is = the=20 higher drag of the RV-6, but I also think = Tracy=20 has had so many long trips to play with = his=20 ignition timing and other variables that = he has=20 his really fine tuned.

Do you plan on = being at=20 the Rotary Fly in?

Ed = Anderson

eanderson@carolina.rr.com

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