X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mxsf27.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.227] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 984145 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:12:14 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.225.28.227; envelope-from=n268bl@charter.net Received: from mxip13a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip13a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.143]) by mxsf27.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1E5BQ2Z008952 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:11:26 -0500 Received: from 68-184-180-175.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com (HELO notebook) ([68.184.180.175]) by mxip13a.cluster1.charter.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2006 00:11:25 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.02,112,1139202000"; d="scan'208,217"; a="2119691688:sNHT33825724" Message-ID: <00c701c63125$1cf86670$1402a8c0@notebook> From: "Bill Eslick" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Another rotary failure Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:11:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C630F2.D1E236C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C630F2.D1E236C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageMark, Jason did, in fact, weld a bead (and a nice one, at that) around the = solid pieces to prevent this from happening. Thanks for your concern. Bill Eslick ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark R Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:36 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another rotary failure I was going to send a private email to Bill Eslick, but in the name of = safety, decided to post it in hopes that maybe someone can answer my = question. I attended the Mid-Winter Rotary fly-in and got a good, long = look at Jason's beautiful 13B installation. I don't know if Jason is on = this list, but I noticed that he had a combination of radiator hose = bends which were clamped to straight pieces of aluminum tubing for = coolant lines. Can anyone tell me if he put beads on the ends of those = aluminum tubes? If not, they could slip off under pressure. I = mentioned the use of common hose clamps vs. constant torque clamps and = he replied that he was planning on swapping those out before first = flight. Its just an observation, no intent to berate his beautiful = installation on this forum. I would just hate for him to have a cooling = system failure (blown hose), knowing that I didn't say anything = beforehand. =20 =20 Is this "tip" on the Wikki? =20 =20 Mark S. =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Al Gietzen Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:50 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another rotary failure =20 On the subject of failures in general, am I the only one who thinks = there have just been way too many of these in the last couple years? =20 =20 Of course you are not the only one. High on my priorities for = selecting an engine was RELIABILITY. It seemed to me a rotary = installation could be made more reliable than a Lycoming. I would hate = to be proven wrong. We had a lengthy discussion some months ago about = peer review, inspections, etc.; but nothing came of it. Apparently the = majority feels the record is OK. =20 Al G -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.7/259 - Release Date: = 2/13/2006 ------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C630F2.D1E236C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message=
Mark,
 
Jason did, in fact, weld a bead (and a = nice one, at=20 that) around the solid pieces to prevent this from happening.  = Thanks for=20 your concern.
 
Bill Eslick
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark R Steitle =
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 = 2:36=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Another rotary=20 failure

I was going = to send a=20 private email to Bill Eslick, but in the name of safety, decided to = post it in=20 hopes that maybe someone can answer my question.  I attended the=20 Mid-Winter Rotary fly-in and got a good, long look at Jason=92s = beautiful 13B=20 installation.  I don=92t know if Jason is on this list, but I = noticed that=20 he had a combination of radiator hose bends which were clamped to = straight=20 pieces of aluminum tubing for coolant lines.  Can=20 anyone tell me if he put beads on the ends of those aluminum = tubes?  If=20 not, they could slip off under pressure.  I mentioned the = use of=20 common hose clamps vs. constant torque clamps and he replied that he = was=20 planning on swapping those out before first flight.  Its just an=20 observation, no intent to berate his beautiful installation on this=20 forum.  I would just hate for him to have a cooling system = failure (blown=20 hose), knowing that I didn=92t say anything beforehand. =20

 

Is this = =93tip=94 on the=20 Wikki? 

 

Mark=20 S.

 

From:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of Al Gietzen
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 = 1:50=20 PM
To: = Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Another rotary=20 failure

 

On the=20 subject of failures in general, am I the only one who thinks there = have just=20 been way too many of these in the last couple years? =20

 

Of course = you are=20 not the only one.  High on my priorities for selecting an engine = was=20 RELIABILITY.  It seemed to me a rotary installation could be made = more=20 reliable than a Lycoming.  I would hate to be proven wrong.  = We had=20 a lengthy discussion some months ago about peer review, inspections, = etc.; but=20 nothing came of it.  Apparently the majority feels the record is=20 OK.

 

Al=20 G

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