X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.192.81] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 983788 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:15:53 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.192.81; envelope-from=rlwhite@comcast.net Received: from Quail (c-68-35-160-229.hsd1.nm.comcast.net[68.35.160.229]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060214001508m1100o7unpe>; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:15:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:15:37 -0700 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Diesel Operation Message-Id: <20060213171537.191b844b.rlwhite@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.0 (GTK+ 2.8.3; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:00:52 -0500 "rijakits" wrote: > > > > > Bob White wrote: > > > > > > >Does anyone have an inkling of what one would have to do to get a 13B > > > >to run on diesel? > > > > > > > >Bob W. > > > > > > > Fill in the depression in the rotors to drive the compression ratio up? > > > Turbo (to drive the compression up)? > > > Add a propane charge for good measure? > > > > > On "the other list" there was one gentleman working on the details for a > Jet-A conversion - I think he was looking into some outborder fuel-injection > system, that runs already direct-injection. > The idea is not to increase compression to the point of "Diesel"-ignition > (Compression ignition), but use direct-injection and spark-ignition to run > the motor. > This way you can use the cheaper and more powerful Jet-A, but the engine is > still not a real Diesel-cycle engine. > The problem is of course the low temperature needed to ignite Diesel, which > makes the engine "diesel" (pre-ignite) - I think Mistral got to around 85 hp > before it started to "diesel". > Solution: Start a spark-shower before you direct-inject Jet-A. > Problem: How do you evaporate or at least fine-distribute the Jet-A enough > to burn clean and efficient? Air-injection around the fuel-injector!! > > I really hope Mistral will make their Jet-A system available seperately as > they do wit hsome other parts.... > ...or the gentleman from the "PL"-domaine get's it right! I think it was > Bill Jepeson, or so..... > > Thomas J. Hi Thomas, Now that you mention it, I think I remember hearing that someone was working on it. Like my engine install, it takes a long time for these developments to come to fruition. Bob W. -- http://www.bob-white.com N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (first engine start 1/7/06) Custom Cables for your rotary installation - http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/