X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [65.54.250.91] (HELO hotmail.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 982974 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:49:15 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.54.250.91; envelope-from=lors01@msn.com Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 08:48:26 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 4.171.129.62 by BAY115-DAV19.phx.gbl with DAV; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:48:25 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [4.171.129.62] X-Originating-Email: [lors01@msn.com] X-Sender: lors01@msn.com From: "Tracy Crook" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Miid-winter Rotary Fest Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:48:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E7_01C63093.63F34190" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:48:22 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2006 16:48:26.0095 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F1DE7F0:01C630BD] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E7_01C63093.63F34190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can only second everything Charlie said - Super Fly-in and a big thanks = to Bill & Linda Eslick for hosting it. =20 Sorry to hear of Chuck's engine problem & glad it ended with normal = landing. Laura tells me he has ordered an overhaul kit, will get it out = ASAP. Added around 12 hours to the Hobbs, and converted around 78 gallons of = fuel to pure fun. Even with the cold OAT (as low as 12 F) and 30 mph = head winds I still look forward to climbing into the cockpit every time. = Great trip back with 30 - 40 MPH tail winds all the way. Averaged over = 200 mph ground speed burning 6 - 6.5 gph. Had to make two fuel stops = and back track 30 miles because first one was closed on weekends (AOPA = data was wrong. Note to self, always call to verify). Return route took = me over New Orleans, still lots of blue tarps on roofs all along gulf = coast. Only other flaw on return flight was my most embarrassing departure from = Bill's home-drome at 0TX1. Later than planned departure due to = celebration after Jason's first engine start. Not too worried about = time because expected tail winds will get me home well before dark. = Then Laura calls and I can tell she is very worried about me replicating = Finn's night landing, so I'm worrying about Laura being worried : ). I = gas up from Bill's tank, say my good-bys and start taxi for departure. = Then I notice that my distance vision is fuzzy. Duh - I'm wearing my = reading glasses. Fumble around looking for sunglasses - can't find = them. Stop at end of runway, loosen seatbelt and open canopy to look in = back seat for them. No joy but my hat goes flying off in the prop wash. = Shut engine down so I can do better search. Another RV enters pattern = for landing so I scramble back into cockpit and move plane off runway. = Finally find glasses walk back and retrieve hat and strap in again. = Other RV just landing warns me on radio that there are some very = squirrelly cross winds. I thank him, start my engine, taxi to runway = and go through check list. All good except that now can't find one of = my gloves. More fumbling, no joy, Aaaarrrgh, decide I can't bear = another full search of cockpit even though OAT going to be 20 F. = Totally forget the crosswind warning and roll for takeoff. All normal = until tailwheel lifts off and plane wind-vanes violently into gust. = Force tail wheel back down to regain control and a second later the = plane lifts off and does a pretty good imitation of a butterfly caught = in the draft of a semi. Soon in control again but combination of low = airspeed, P factor and cross wind has plane pointed 45 degrees away from = course down runway. And of course, all in front of an audience of = die-hard rotor-heads who were still at Bill's place. Sigh.... =20 Tracy (adding glasses to preflight checklist) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Charlie England=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Miid-winter Rotary Fest Got home around 1:00 PM today after a great day with a bunch of=20 rotorheads at Bill & Linda Eslick's Rotary get-together. Lots of great = people, info, food, camaraderie & other things I can't remember at the = moment. Informal fuel flow comparison on the way to Pecan Plantation from=20 Slobovia: Tracy burned around 22.5 gal (he can give exact figure); I=20 burned 21.8 in my 160 hp Lyc powered RV-4. Loose formation flight, = with=20 me sloppily flying wing. This was over 3.5 hrs, between cow tipping &=20 5500ft altitudes varying due to conditions, at very low (for an RV)=20 power settings. Note that I am not afraid to lean a Lyc, so many Lyc=20 drivers might have burned more than Tracy on this flight. Hope to do = it=20 again sometime at 'normal' power levels & normal cruise altitudes. Got the bad news about Chuck's engine before breakfast this morning. = I'm=20 really sorry Chuck; let us know if we can help. Got to see 1st engine start of Jason (?)'s rotary RV-6A & we almost = had=20 to call the medics to patch up his face after the serious splitting = from=20 the combo RV & Rotary Grin. Mark Stietle (sorry if I misspelled that, Mark...) gave us a great = demo=20 of a very discriminating, light, low power, relatively cheap flame=20 detector that seems able to ignore all forms of radiant energy & just=20 detect flame. Great idea for the engine compartment. Ed Anderson spoke about his fuel computer work & the latest product, a = solid state angle of attack detector. And of course, Tracy updated everyone about advances to the EC-2. Most = impressive were 2 modes allowing you to fire the injectors or the = spark=20 plugs with the engine off, to test wiring, connectors, etc. Other stuff I'm too tired to remember at the moment. Bill & Linda, thanks for the great event. Presenters, thanks for the innovation & for sharing your knowledge &=20 experience. Damon & Donna, thanks for the bed. Gary, thanks for saving me a fuel stop. Hope to see you all again soon. Charlie -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ ------=_NextPart_000_00E7_01C63093.63F34190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can only second everything Charlie said - Super Fly-in and a big = thanks to=20 Bill & Linda Eslick for hosting it.  
 
Sorry to hear of Chuck's engine problem & glad it ended with = normal=20 landing.  Laura tells me he has ordered an overhaul kit, will get = it out=20 ASAP.
 
Added around 12 hours to the Hobbs, and converted around 78 gallons = of fuel=20 to pure fun.  Even with the cold OAT (as low as 12 F) and 30 mph = head winds=20 I still look forward to climbing into the cockpit every time.  = Great trip=20 back with 30 - 40 MPH tail winds all the way.  Averaged over 200 = mph ground=20 speed burning 6 - 6.5 gph.   Had to make two fuel stops and = back track=20 30 miles because first one was closed on weekends (AOPA data was wrong. = Note to=20 self, always call to verify).  Return route took me over New = Orleans, =20 still lots of blue tarps on roofs all along gulf coast.
 
Only other flaw on return flight was my most embarrassing = departure=20 from Bill's home-drome at 0TX1.  Later than planned departure due = to=20 celebration after Jason's first engine start.  Not too worried = about time=20 because expected tail winds will get me home well before = dark.   Then=20 Laura calls and I can tell she is very worried about me replicating = Finn's night=20 landing, so I'm worrying about Laura being worried : ).   = I gas=20 up from Bill's tank, say my good-bys  and start taxi for=20 departure.  Then I notice that my distance vision is fuzzy.  = Duh - I'm=20 wearing my reading glasses.  Fumble around looking for sunglasses - = can't=20 find them.  Stop at end of runway, loosen seatbelt and open = canopy to=20 look in back seat for them.  No joy but my hat goes flying off in = the prop=20 wash.  Shut engine down so I can do better search.  = Another RV=20 enters pattern for landing so I scramble back into cockpit and move = plane=20 off runway.  Finally find glasses walk back and retrieve hat and = strap in=20 again.  Other RV just landing warns me on radio that there are some = very=20 squirrelly cross winds.  I thank him, start my engine, taxi to = runway=20 and go through check list.  All good except that now can't = find one of=20 my gloves.  More fumbling, no joy, Aaaarrrgh, decide I can't bear = another=20 full search of cockpit even though OAT going to be 20 = F.  =20 Totally forget the crosswind warning and roll for takeoff.  All = normal=20 until tailwheel lifts off and plane wind-vanes violently into = gust.  Force=20 tail wheel back down to regain control and a second later the plane = lifts off=20 and does a pretty good imitation of a butterfly caught in the draft of a = semi.  Soon in control again but combination of low airspeed, P = factor and=20 cross wind has plane pointed 45 degrees away from course down=20 runway.     And of course,  all in front of an = audience=20 of die-hard rotor-heads who were still at Bill's place. =20 Sigh....  
 
Tracy (adding glasses to preflight checklist)
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Charlie England
Subject: [FlyRotary] = Miid-winter Rotary=20 Fest

Got home around 1:00 PM today after a great day with a = bunch of=20
rotorheads at Bill & Linda Eslick's Rotary get-together. Lots = of great=20
people, info, food, camaraderie & other things I can't = remember at the=20
moment.

Informal fuel flow comparison on the way to Pecan=20 Plantation from
Slobovia: Tracy burned around 22.5 gal (he can = give exact=20 figure); I
burned 21.8 in my 160 hp Lyc powered RV-4. Loose = formation=20 flight, with
me sloppily flying wing. This was over 3.5 hrs, = between cow=20 tipping &
5500ft altitudes varying due to conditions, at very = low (for=20 an RV)
power settings. Note that I am not afraid to lean a Lyc, so = many=20 Lyc
drivers might have burned more than Tracy on this flight. Hope = to do=20 it
again sometime at 'normal' power levels & normal cruise=20 altitudes.

Got the bad news about Chuck's engine before = breakfast this=20 morning. I'm
really sorry Chuck; let us know if we can = help.

Got to=20 see 1st engine start of Jason (?)'s rotary RV-6A & we almost had =
to=20 call the medics to patch up his face after the serious splitting from =
the=20 combo RV & Rotary Grin.

Mark Stietle (sorry if I misspelled = that,=20 Mark...) gave us a great demo
of a very discriminating, light, low = power,=20 relatively cheap flame
detector that seems able to ignore all = forms of=20 radiant energy & just
detect flame. Great idea for the engine=20 compartment.

Ed Anderson spoke about his fuel computer work = & the=20 latest product, a
solid state angle of attack detector.

And = of=20 course, Tracy updated everyone about advances to the EC-2. Most =
impressive=20 were 2 modes allowing you to fire the injectors or the spark
plugs = with=20 the engine off, to test wiring, connectors, etc.

Other stuff = I'm too=20 tired to remember at the moment.

Bill & Linda, thanks for = the great=20 event.

Presenters, thanks for the innovation & for sharing = your=20 knowledge &
experience.

Damon & Donna, thanks for = the=20 bed.

Gary, thanks for saving me a fuel stop.

Hope to see = you all=20 again soon.

Charlie


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