X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.205] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 981585 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 01:36:53 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.233.184.205; envelope-from=wdleonard@gmail.com Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so827189wra for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:36:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=QFIytrATmyXjho8RtcpVrGV0NoU7ASGFN90BVKuDzcYhsVRb2weundln5IrfJwso11KEx2D8mfp4+TAAoiQE/veBea3mWnc1MjCL+XCXzIwSHVAt0ePOLiOJuCctaN24EZ0etSzHpoRHFeXxaJoXD29glpnSX5mJq2E4aB4U3X0= Received: by 10.65.214.16 with SMTP id r16mr468265qbq; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:36:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.216.20 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:36:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1c23473f0602112236i1b1daf3ds2c5914a94f9df8c9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:36:07 -0800 From: David Leonard To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Another rotary failure In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16374_33161128.1139726167837" References: ------=_Part_16374_33161128.1139726167837 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Wow Chuck, Very sorry to hear. I certainly know what you are going through. I think it is even more worrisome that it just happened out of th= e blue like that. It was more justifiable for me because of coolant issues. But for you to have the same problem twice, without a known cause - and not even running a turbo. That troubles me. I wish I was in a position to offer some help - other than recent experienc= e in tearing apart a rotary... Dave Leonard On 2/11/06, Chuck Dunlap wrote: > > Sorry I didn't make to Bill Eslick's for the Rotorfest, I missed by about > one hour. About 30 miles north of San Angelo TX the RPM suddenly dropped = and > I could not restore it with any of my emergency procedures. GPS told me > nearest airport was Robert Lee about 15 miles away. I headed there and > landed without incident. > Turning the prop by hand shows almost zero compression in one rotor, > indicating bad/broken apex seals, quite similar to my engine-out experien= ce > 2 1/2 years ago which caused a forced landing near the Grand Canyon. This > time the vibration was not quite as bad, and the RPM dropped to around 43= 00 > which was still not enough to maintain altitude. I called my friend with= a > Glasair and he cam got me and took me home. I will have to find some time= to > build another motor and drive 12 hours back there and swap motors. Or I > might drive there, remove the wings and trailer it back, have not decided > yet. > My good friend/mentor/flight instructor is trying to talk me into going > back to a Lycosaurus, and I have to think of some good reasons not to. Un= til > I get the motor back and torn apart, I wont know what caused the failure, > but I will post anything that I find. > > Regards > Chuck Dunlap > RV-6 13B 535 hours > -- Dave Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html ------=_Part_16374_33161128.1139726167837 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Wow Chuck, Very sorry to hear.  I certainly know what you are goi= ng through.  I think it is even more worrisome that it just happened o= ut of the blue like that.  It was more justifiable for me because of c= oolant issues.  But for you to have the same problem twice, without a = known cause - and not even running a turbo.  That troubles me.
 
I wish I was in a position to offer some help - other than recent expe= rience in tearing apart a rotary...
 
Dave Leonard

 
On 2/11/06, = Chuck Dunlap <crayd@cableone.n= et> wrote:
Sorry I didn't make to Bill Esli= ck's for the Rotorfest, I missed by about one hour. About 30 miles north of= San Angelo TX the RPM suddenly dropped and I could not restore it with any= of my emergency procedures. GPS told me nearest airport was Robert Lee abo= ut 15 miles away. I headed there and landed without incident.
Turning the prop by hand shows a= lmost zero compression in one rotor, indicating bad/broken apex seals, quit= e similar to my engine-out experience 2 1/2 years ago which caused a forced= landing near the Grand Canyon. This time the vibration was not quite as ba= d, and the RPM dropped to around 4300 which was still not enough to maintai= n altitude.  I called my friend with a Glasair and he cam got me and t= ook me home. I will have to find some time to build another motor and drive= 12 hours back there and swap motors. Or I might drive there, remove the wi= ngs and trailer it back, have not decided yet.
My good friend/mentor/flight ins= tructor is trying to talk me into going back to a Lycosaurus, and I have to= think of some good reasons not to. Until I get the motor back and torn apa= rt, I wont know what caused the failure, but I will post anything that= I find.
 
Regards
Chuck Dunlap
RV-6 13B 535 hours=



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Dave Leona= rd
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
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