Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #29843
From: al p Wick <alwick@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Suitability of NPG for Rotary Engine use
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:46:35 -0800
To: <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
What a thorough analysis Ed. I really enjoyed reading it. I always consider the next step is to do some simple tests that prove these conclusions. Only because too much reliance on theory often leads to lost perspective. Well, that's been my experience anyway.
 
In spite of Dave's experience, I really find that higher boiling point real attractive. I try to encourage guys flying unknown cooling systems to take advantage of the safety margin you get from boiling point. Even though I don't use Evans myself.  I consider boil over the number one coolant risk item.
 
Do you guys have anyone flying with evans?
 
Thanks for sharing your analysis.

-al wick
Artificial intelligence in cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock Subaru 2.5
N9032U 200+ hours on engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon
Prop construct, Subaru install, Risk assessment, Glass panel design info:
http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html
 
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:31:48 -0500 "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> writes:
Things have been a little dull on the list, since Dave reported on his "adventure". 
 
 Also, I recently received a phone call from a rotary enthusiast (not on the list) about the use of Evans NPG (Propylene Glycol) in rotary engines.  I did a bit of research and my conclusion was the rotary engine was not well suited to benefit from the properties of NPG in its stock coolant system configuration.  
 
 That the use of 100% glycol would  require increased coolant flow rates by 10-15% and more coolant pump power would be required (hard to quantify this one but it appears in the range of 15-25% more).  Also the hazard of fire due to a leak on hot exhaust would be increased (this would apply to a 100% mixture of either Ethylene or Propylene glycol).  There are benefits to using NPG, however, in my opinion the effort needed to change  the rotary cooling configuration to safely use it makes the cost effectiveness of the conversion questionable.
 
The apparent success of Evans NPG in reciprocating engines is not in conflict with my assessment about its suitability for the rotary engine.
 
Attached is some supporting (I believe) facts to support this opinion (and that is all it is).
 
Ed
 
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
 

-al wick
Artificial intelligence in cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock Subaru 2.5
N9032U 200+ hours on engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon
Prop construct, Subaru install, Risk assessment, Glass panel design info:
http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html
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