Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #28595
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Props
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:25:23 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Bully, the formula's correct.  However, you must put in the rpm of the prop - not the engine which in our case means we need to  simply divide whatever answer you got with the formula by 2.17
 
I get 772 ft/sec for a 64" dia prop with engine turning at 6000 rpm with a 2.17
 
So formula for us should be tip speed = (Dia" *3.1416* rpm/(12*60))/2.17 or whatever your gear ratio is.
 
Ed
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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 6:44 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Props

Thanks Dave. it makes me feel better now that I know I was wrong. My problem now is: I can spin my "monster prop" (static) up-to 4000RPM and 50" MP I don't think I can get much more in motion and may not get enough rpm for flight. I'll see first how much difference it will make on fast taxi. John Slade also will bring his Performance prop one day, so we can compare them.
BTW the prop tip speed formula given to me was:
Prop D" x 3.1416 x RPM divided by 720
Buly

On Dec 19, 2005, at 6:06 PM, David Leonard wrote:

Oh, BTW Bully.  You will also note that at 6000 RPM the prop is doing 2750 which a lot of certified props will turn, even if 74"long.
 
Also, short prop are not necessarily less efficient, its just that the speed of peak efficiency is shifted to a higher airspeed, and probably that peak is a little more narrow.
 
Dave Leonard

 
On 12/19/05, Buly <atlasyts@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Yesterday somebody gave me the formulas to calculate the prop tip
speed. I did some calculations and looks like us with the 2.17
redrives are kind of painted in the corner. Hope I'm wrong, but if I
want to keep the tips from going supersonic, I have to cut down the
prop to 64" or keep the engine below 5500 RPM. The choice is either
inefficient prop and adequate power, or efficient long prop and not
getting all the power from the engine? Am I wrong?
Buly
atlasyts@bellsouth.net




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