X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.198.35] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.4) with ESMTP id 889115 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 19:18:12 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.198.35; envelope-from=rlwhite@comcast.net Received: from Quail (bgp01386375bgs.brodwy01.nm.comcast.net[68.35.160.229]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005122000172701300c9ftke>; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 00:17:27 +0000 Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:17:39 -0700 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Props Message-Id: <20051219171739.c25bcfbe.rlwhite@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.1.9 (GTK+ 2.8.3; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Buly, That formula will give speed in fps. 3.14*64*(5500/2.17) = 509346 508346/720 = 707 fps 88 fps = 60 mph so 707 fps = 482 mph which is well below the speed of sound. Bob W. On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:44:03 -0500 Bulent Aliev wrote: > Thanks Dave. it makes me feel better now that I know I was wrong. My > problem now is: I can spin my "monster prop" (static) up-to 4000RPM > and 50" MP I don't think I can get much more in motion and may not > get enough rpm for flight. I'll see first how much difference it will > make on fast taxi. John Slade also will bring his Performance prop > one day, so we can compare them. > BTW the prop tip speed formula given to me was: > Prop D" x 3.1416 x RPM divided by 720 > Buly > > On Dec 19, 2005, at 6:06 PM, David Leonard wrote: > > > Oh, BTW Bully. You will also note that at 6000 RPM the prop is > > doing 2750 which a lot of certified props will turn, even if 74"long. > > > > Also, short prop are not necessarily less efficient, its just that > > the speed of peak efficiency is shifted to a higher airspeed, and > > probably that peak is a little more narrow. > > > > Dave Leonard > > > > > > On 12/19/05, Buly wrote: > > Yesterday somebody gave me the formulas to calculate the prop tip > > speed. I did some calculations and looks like us with the 2.17 > > redrives are kind of painted in the corner. Hope I'm wrong, but if I > > want to keep the tips from going supersonic, I have to cut down the > > prop to 64" or keep the engine below 5500 RPM. The choice is either > > inefficient prop and adequate power, or efficient long prop and not > > getting all the power from the engine? Am I wrong? > > Buly > > atlasyts@bellsouth.net > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ > > > > > > > > -- > > Dave Leonard > > Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY > > http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html > > http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html > > Bulent Aliev > atlasyts@bellsouth.net > http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/community.dll? > ep=16&ext=1&groupid=164323&ck= > > > -- http://www.bob-white.com N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (Projected engine start - maybe next week) Custom Cables for your rotary installation - http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/