X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.3) with ESMTP id 868275 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:07:13 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.131.117; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from 204.127.135.58 ([204.127.135.58]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <2005120816370911300rt4dpe>; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 16:37:20 +0000 Received: from [172.150.197.129] by 204.127.135.58; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 16:37:08 +0000 From: keltro@att.net (Kelly Troyer) To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: Excommunication Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 16:37:08 +0000 Message-Id: <120820051637.12958.43986133000317570000329E2160281060019D9B040A05@att.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Nov 10 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: a2VsdHJvQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_12958_1134059828_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_12958_1134059828_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lyn, You can sign up for free Google E-Mail (G-mail) with about 2.6 g of storage space.........Dave Leonard sent out free invites to many of us.... I have my flyrotary E-mails sent to this address along with my ATT e-mail account.........So much storage space that I do not even bother to delete old messages.......Just refer back to them when needed....... Google gives each of us 100 invites to give to anyone for a free G-mail account........Will be happy to send you or anyone else in the group a invite........Just let me know .........FWIW -- Kelly Troyer Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2 -------------- Original message from Lehanover@aol.com: -------------- All AOL people were dropped after AOL altered their Spam controls, in some way that PL's list looked like Spam and bounced the messages. Other systems may have done the same thing, and some require you to add the PL list to your list of OK sites in order to get messages from that list. I was unable to figure that out for AOL, and apparently I was not alone. I re-upped through a free Lycos Email page and all goes well unless the mailbox fills up and then you start bouncing again and get dropped. PL was promoting rotary engines for aircraft when most people had never seen one. He has little time for those who refuse to look up anything on their own, and, or, insist on constructing failure prone contraptions that will damage the rotary's (and home building in general) already doubtful reputation. Most of the people on his list belong to this one anyway, so I see no advantage in slamming his list. There are some real bright people over there too. If you are familiar with some of the basic rules for designing hose systems, aircraft fasteners, and just plain common sense, you could scarcely keep your lunch down when looking at some of the home built planes at Sun&Fun. The rotary planes are actually pretty advanced when compared to most. But I have yet to see even one rotary powered plane where I agreed with every method or feature of construction. There is always something that could be made better looking, or safer, or stronger, or lighter, or, whatever. Its about time that the rotary people had their own air-race, early, during Sun&Fun (but not near Lakeland) and just post the results in the rotary tent. (So the Sun&Fun people don't have a cow) But then, I could be (and often am) wrong. Lynn E. Hanover --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_12958_1134059828_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Lyn,

You can sign up for free Google E-Mail (G-mail) with about 2.6 g of

storage space.........Dave Leonard sent out free invites to many of us....

I have my flyrotary E-mails sent to this address along with my ATT

e-mail account.........So much storage space that I do not even bother

to delete old messages.......Just refer back to them when needed.......

Google gives each of us 100 invites to give to anyone for a free G-mail

account........Will be happy to send you or anyone else in the group a

invite........Just let me know .........FWIW

--
Kelly Troyer
Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2

-------------- Original message from Lehanover@aol.com: --------------

All AOL people were dropped after AOL altered their Spam controls, in some way that PL's list looked like Spam and bounced the messages. Other systems may have done the same thing, and some require you to add the PL list to your list of OK sites in order to get messages from that list. I was unable to figure that out for AOL, and apparently I was not alone.

I re-upped through a free Lycos Email page and all goes well unless the mailbox fills up and then you start bouncing again and get dropped.

PL was promoting rotary engines for aircraft when most people had never seen one. He has little time for those who refuse to look up anything on their own, and, or, insist on constructing failure prone contraptions that will damage the rotary's (and home building in general) already doubtful reputation. Most of the people on his list belong to this one anyway, so I see no advantage in slamming his list. There are some real bright people over there too.

If you are familiar with some of the basic rules for designing hose systems, aircraft fasteners,

and just plain common sense, you could scarcely keep your lunch down when looking at some of the home built planes at Sun&Fun. The rotary planes are actually pretty advanced when compared to most. But I have yet to see even one rotary powered plane where I agreed with every method or feature of construction. There is always something that could be made better looking, or safer, or stronger, or lighter, or, whatever.

Its about time that the rotary people had their own air-race, early, during Sun&Fun (but not near Lakeland) and just post the results in the rotary tent. (So the Sun&Fun people don't have a cow)

But then, I could be (and often am) wrong.

Lynn E. Hanover

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