X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [201.225.225.169] (HELO cwpanama.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.3) with ESMTP id 868047 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:10:38 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=201.225.225.169; envelope-from=rijakits@cwpanama.net Received: from [201.224.93.110] (HELO usuarioq3efog0) by frontend3.cwpanama.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 53685888 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:38:12 -0500 Message-ID: <004d01c5fc00$f6325360$6e5de0c9@usuarioq3efog0> From: "rijakits" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Another Excommunication Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 09:09:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Hans, that's what I thought first, will all his discussion about AOL and one or the other, but as I don't have ANYTHING with AOL (hell I even wrote it with asterics and spaces, so his probably installed filter wouldn't kill my message). I am on C&W (Cable&Wireless) in a different country, no filters, plenty of space, hardly ever bounces ( and if so it advices when and what was bounced and why), never an ACRE-email....... I asked other list members to forward that I don't get his list-mail. I went to him via his website ---- nothing. You would think that a grown-up, intelligent (obviously he is not stupid, just acts weird at times...) man, would have the courtesy and guts to tell you WHY you are off!! If it was for PC/ISP trouble I could fix it, but if I don't know WHY what can I do? Never mind by now I am just curious WHY, I had it with his list - all the good stuff shows up here (FlyRotary) anyway + the good stuff "he" condemns/edits/proofreads/inquisitions! Thomas J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Conser" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:35 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another Excommunication > I have a theory that not all people that think they were banned were > actually banned... Some may be removed due to email bounces... > > On Dec 7, 2005, at 6:54 PM, Charlie England wrote: > > > Ed's right; people should be able to have knock down, drag out > > disagreements about the subject at hand & even tolerate abuse in the > > interest of advancing the knowledge base, then sit down & eat a meal > > or have a drink together. Ed and I can certify that this is possible, > > right Ed? > > > > Censorship, personal attacks, banishing members outright because they > > disagree with your position, etc all work counter to the purpose of > > these lists & make this hobby more dangerous because peer review is > > effectively killed. > > > > I suspect that you would be shocked if you could see a head count of > > all the people on this list who have been involuntarily banned from > > the other list. > > > > You might be right about this particular banishment, but based on > > statistical odds, my money is on the other guy's version. > > > > Charlie > > banned 2003 (I think) > > > > Ed Anderson wrote: > > > >> You may be right, Jerry. But, its not only what is communicated > >> that's important but how its communicated that can make a difference. > >> Especially using e mails as the conduct. > >> In any case, derogatory comments and/or abusive language from > >> "adults" is unexceptable behavior in most company. Don't know if it > >> happened in this case, but I know it happens, because I've been on > >> the receiving end. Ed A > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Jerry Hey > >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:37 PM > >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another Excommunication > >> > >> Remember that you have only heard one person's version, I know > >> the entire history and think Paul Lamar was being very helpful to > >> Bill. Sometimes when the facts are not what we hoped, anger is > >> the response. Bill is free to do what he wants but he got good > >> advice from Paul Lamar that he should consider once he has had > >> time to cool down. > >> This is my first and last comment on this issue. Jerry > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Dec 7, 2005, at 4:15 PM, wrjjrs@aol.com > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Just your opinion, but I like it! > >>> Bill Jepson > >>> Too bad, he can be a nice and personable fellow when not > >>> threatened. > >>> Just my opinion of course, not a trained psychiatrist, > >>> although I > >>> did sleep at a Holiday Inn once or twice. > >>> Ed A > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ > > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/