X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0c7) with ESMTP id 800686 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:26:46 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.101; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-025-165.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.25.165]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j9VGPx4p025172 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:25:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <004001c5de37$cbcb6800$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Shady Bend Report Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:26:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01C5DE0D.E2C35380" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C5DE0D.E2C35380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hope to see you there next year, Mark. =20 Sounds like you are making good progress (when visitors are not present = {:>)). Yes, those brakes are rather important - as I tell folks, "Its = one thing if you can't get started, it's something altogether different = when you can't get stopped {:>)". I was wondering about your brake size, I am real happy with my brake = up-grade, just feels like I have more authority over where the aircraft = goes. I calculated the ft-lbs of energy required to stop my RV-6A from = 60 MPH and decided that the old brakes were marginal - especially with = my somewhat heavier aircraft. =20 So now I have new gear, new brakes, new brake lines, new wheel pants = (still need to get them painted) and they all felt great. Us old guys need to see some fresh blood (flying rotaries) at the Shady = Bend flyin, its getting so we've told each other the same story so many = times, we find out selves telling each other's stories {:>). Ed A ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark R Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 9:16 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Shady Bend Report Ed, Hopefully, those with cameras will post some pictures for those of us = that were unable to attend. =20 =20 Progress Report: I moved my 20B Lancair ES project out to the = Lockhart airport two weekends back. I was out there most of the rotary = fly-in weekend, getting things organized and hoping to make some good = progress. Well, it seems that the word traveled fast amongst the = ole-timer RV builders around the Lockhart airport and it wasn't long = before there was a nonstop parade into and out of my hangar. (Forget = getting any work done) If I'd charged admission, I could cover the cost = of a really nice custom paint job. These are the typical certified = engine bunch, but they all seemed very impressed with the 20B FWF = package, especially when I reminded (which I did often) that it only has = 4 moving parts. And when they asked about the horsepower, I would tell = them it easily puts out 275-300 hp, more if I wanted to peripheral port = the engine. The typical response was, "wow, that should really make = this baby go". They're all anxiously looking forward to hearing it run. = I'll be able to do that once I get the EC-2 & EM-2 back from getting = the latest upgrades by Tracy. Also, I need to install the prop so I can = open the throttle and add some real power. Reminder to self. HOOK UP = BRAKES.=20 =20 Glad the fly-in was a success. Hope to fly down next year in my own = rotary-powered bird. =20 Mark S. =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 7:45 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Shady Bend Report =20 Hi Mark, =20 There were cameras, so I'm certain they did. I left my camera at home = so did not take any myself. =20 Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark R Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 8:29 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Shady Bend Report =20 Ed, Thanks for the great report. Did anyone take pictures? =20 =20 Mark S. =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 4:35 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Shady Bend Report =20 Great weekend at Shady Bend Rotary Round up. Had 4 rotary powered = RVs - well, 5 if you count the remnants of Finn's RV-3 hanging in the = tree. Fin was there and gave his take on what happened, his mind set = and why he was so determined to land. Still awesome to see the crash = site and see Finn standing there taking about it. Laura conducted a = guided tour of the site and added the ground perspective of the = incident. =20 Monty demonstrated his muffler experiment on Tracy's test stand = engine - I think he is on to something - but will take some more = experimenting to sort it all out. =20 Richard Shon showed casting patterns and castings for his one lunger = motor very impressive his design for the side housing. =20 =20 Kelly presented the result of his interaction with Creavy? and the = TES "O" rings. =20 Tracy gave a great presentation on the Ec2 setup - I even learned = something {:>) =20 Bill Eslick MCed a panel discussion - question/answer session. =20 Some of the old regulars and some new folks there, including a = couple of current Air Force flying types - flying F4's, but can't wait = to get their Rvs flying. =20 Richard Nagle? flew Rusty's RV-3 there - Great looking aircraft = Rusty, can't imagine you letting it go. =20 =20 Bill Eslick and his lovely wife Linda flew in from Texas and won = longest Rotary flight to SB. =20 Bill Schertz came from Illinois and had photos of his meticulous = workmanship of his KIS project. =20 The gang from OK, AR, MS drove in, great to see Kelly, Monty, Ken = and Charlie - =20 =20 Buly and his wife Doris was there, Buly reported on the devastation = that Wilma did at his airport - but, fortunately Buly's project was = undamaged. Bernie Kerr did not make it - we believe because power had = not yet been restored to his area. =20 Many others were there and all helped make it a great event. =20 And of course the Crooks were great hosts as always, food, drink, = lodging, transportation, you name it and they provided it. Laura was = organizational director (always a good thing). assisted by Tracy's Daughter Sandy (who flew her Cessna 150 in - = must make a Dad Proud!). A sign was posted on the cowl of the Cessna = 150 " all I want for Christmas is a Rotary engine ". Tracy's mother = handled registration and Laura's father cooked Hamburgers and dogs - a = real family affair. =20 =20 Many other things, but will let others fill in the blanks. =20 Had a headwind, going and coming so fly was uneventful, brakes = worked fine and arrived back here in NC around 1215 today. Absolutely a = beautiful week end for flying. =20 Best Regards Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C5DE0D.E2C35380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hope to see you there next year, Mark.  =
 
Sounds like you are making good progress (when = visitors=20 are not present {:>)).  Yes, those brakes are rather important - = as I=20 tell folks, "Its one thing if you can't get started, it's something = altogether=20 different when you can't get stopped {:>)".
 
I was wondering about your brake size, I am real = happy=20 with my brake up-grade, just feels like I have more authority over where = the=20 aircraft goes.  I calculated the ft-lbs of energy required to stop = my RV-6A=20 from 60 MPH and decided that the old brakes were marginal - especially = with my=20 somewhat heavier aircraft. 
 
So now I have new gear, new brakes, new brake = lines, new=20 wheel pants (still need to get them painted) and they all felt=20 great.
 
Us old guys need to see some fresh blood (flying = rotaries)=20 at the Shady Bend flyin, its getting so we've told each other the same = story so=20 many times, we find out selves telling each other's stories=20 {:>).
 
Ed A
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark R Steitle =
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 = 9:16=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Shady = Bend=20 Report

Ed,

Hopefully, = those with=20 cameras will post some pictures for those of us that were unable to=20 attend. 

 

Progress = Report:=20  I moved my 20B Lancair ES project out to the Lockhart airport = two=20 weekends back.  I was out there most of the rotary fly-in = weekend,=20 getting things organized and hoping to make some good progress.  = Well, it=20 seems that the word traveled fast amongst the ole-timer RV builders = around the=20 Lockhart airport and it wasn=92t long before there was a nonstop = parade into and=20 out of my hangar.  (Forget getting any work done)  If I=92d = charged=20 admission, I could cover the cost of a really nice custom paint = job. =20 These are the typical certified engine bunch, but they all seemed very = impressed with the 20B FWF package, especially when I reminded (which = I did=20 often) that it only has 4 moving parts.  And when they asked = about the=20 horsepower, I would tell them it easily puts out 275-300 hp, more if I = wanted=20 to peripheral port the engine.  The typical response was, =93wow, = that=20 should really make this baby go=94.  They=92re all anxiously = looking forward=20 to hearing it run.  I=92ll be able to do that once I get the EC-2 = &=20 EM-2 back from getting the latest upgrades by Tracy.  Also, I need to = install the prop=20 so I can open the throttle and add some real power.  Reminder to = self=85=20 HOOK UP BRAKES.

 

Glad the = fly-in was a=20 success.  Hope to fly down next year in my own rotary-powered=20 bird.

 

Mark S.=20    

 

From: Rotary=20 motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed = Anderson
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 = 7:45=20 AM
To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary]=20 Re: Shady Bend=20 Report

 

Hi=20 Mark,

 

There were cameras, so = I'm certain=20 they did.  I left my camera at home so did not take any=20 myself.

 

Ed

----- Original Message = -----=20

From: Mark R Steitle=20

To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20

Sent: Monday,=20 October 31, 2005 8:29 AM

Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: Shady Bend=20 Report

 

Ed,

Thanks = for the=20 great report.  Did anyone take pictures? =20

 

Mark=20 S.

 

From:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Ed = Anderson
Sent: Sunday, October 30, = 2005 4:35=20 PM
To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary] Shady Bend=20 Report

 

Great weekend at Shady = Bend=20 Rotary Round up.  Had 4 rotary powered RVs - well, 5 if you = count the=20 remnants of Finn's RV-3 hanging in the tree.  Fin was there and = gave=20 his take on what happened, his mind set and why he was = so determined to=20 land.  Still awesome to see the crash site and see Finn=20 standing there taking about it.  Laura conducted a guided = tour of=20 the site and added the ground perspective of the=20 incident.

 

Monty demonstrated his = muffler=20 experiment on Tracy's test stand engine - I = think he is=20 on to something - but will take some more experimenting to sort it = all=20 out.

 

Richard Shon showed = casting=20 patterns and castings for his one lunger motor very impressive his = design=20 for the side housing. 

 

Kelly presented the = result of=20 his interaction with Creavy? and the TES "O"=20 rings.

 

Tracy gave a great = presentation on=20 the Ec2 setup - I  even learned something=20 {:>)

 

Bill Eslick MCed a = panel=20 discussion - question/answer = session.

 

Some of the old = regulars and=20 some new folks there, including a couple of current Air Force flying = types -=20 flying F4's, but  can't wait to get their Rvs=20 flying.

 

Richard Nagle? flew = Rusty's RV-3=20 there - Great looking aircraft Rusty, can't imagine you letting it = go. =20

 

Bill Eslick and his = lovely wife=20 Linda flew in from Texas and won longest Rotary = flight to=20 SB.

 

Bill Schertz came from = Illinois=20 and had photos of his meticulous workmanship of his KIS=20 project.

 

The gang from OK, AR, = MS drove=20 in, great to see Kelly, Monty, Ken and Charlie=20 -

 

 

Buly and his wife = Doris was there, Buly reported on the = devastation that=20 Wilma did at his airport - but, fortunately Buly's project was=20 undamaged.  Bernie Kerr did not make it - we believe = because power=20 had not yet been restored to his = area.

 

Many others were there = and all=20 helped make it a great event.

 

And of course the = Crooks were=20 great hosts as always, food, drink, lodging, transportation, you = name =20 it and they provided it.  Laura was organizational director = (always a=20 good thing).

assisted by Tracy's = Daughter Sandy=20 (who flew her Cessna 150 in - must make a Dad Proud!).  A sign = was=20 posted on the cowl of the Cessna 150 " all I want for Christmas is a = Rotary=20 engine ".  Tracy's mother handled = registration and=20 Laura's father cooked Hamburgers and  dogs - a real family=20 affair. 

 

Many other things, but = will let=20 others fill in the blanks.

 

Had a headwind, going = and coming=20 so fly was uneventful, brakes worked fine and arrived back here in = NC around=20 1215 today.  Absolutely a beautiful week end for=20 flying.

 

Best=20 Regards

Ed Anderson
Rv-6A = N494BW=20 Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com

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