X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0c4) with ESMTP id 761988 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:01:50 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.101; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-025-165.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.25.165]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j9BL13l9018975 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002501c5cea6$e92d24b0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Help!! Installing Tracy's apex seals Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:01:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C5CE85.61CCC870" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C5CE85.61CCC870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave, The instructions I have indicates the triangular part of the apex seal = should be on the side toward the flywheel (Rear) on both rotors. This = means you can put the long piece in and hold it there with a large = rubber band, set the rotor down on its side housing and then you can put = the triangular piece in its slot and then the springs (small spring = first {:>)). Note. Make certain the small spring goes in as far as you = can get it. Also be careful that the springs don't turn side ways as = you put them in the slot. =20 I put masking tape over the coolant galleys because I have had the small = apex piece pop out of its slot (apparently that's what caused my problem = with the over-tight engine rebuild in May and it got trapped in one of = the milled holes of the rotor which provided just enough clearance that = I could button the engine down - but cause problems later on). Taking a small screw driver/awl press down on the end of the springs = until you hear them snap into place. The end of the long spring should = slide to the outside(under) of the short spring and its end should be = secured under the notch of the triangular piece. Once, you have = everything in place, I recommend that your rotate the rotor on the e = shaft (assuming the rotor housing is in place) until each apex seal is = exposed in the exhaust housing. Note. Rotation can cause the triangular = piece to push out of its slot - so check it as you rotate the rotor. = Then Press on the apex seal with your finger through the exhaust port to = see that it has give -it should feel firm but it should have some give, = if it does not give, then you really need to check the spring insertion = again. You don't have to do this step, but it makes me feel better {:>) So there is no problem facing the triangular piece to the rear (flywheel = end) and my reference all indicates that is the way it should be. Ed A ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Leonard=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 4:16 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Help!! Installing Tracy's apex seals In Bruce's video he talks about putting the corner piece of the apex = seal toward the front of the engine. But with Tracy's seals the corner = piece is not attached. So I cannot get the apex seal spring to slide in = because the corner piece (now down at the bottom of the slot) has slid = back a little.=20 If I put the corner piece toward the rear of the engine, I am able to = get everything in place just fine. Is there any problem with putting the corner pieces in last (toward = the rear of the engine)? --=20 Dave Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C5CE85.61CCC870 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dave,
 
The instructions I have indicates the triangular = part of=20 the apex seal should be on  the side toward the = flywheel=20 (Rear) on both rotors.  This means you can put the long piece in = and hold=20 it there with a large rubber band, set the rotor down on its side = housing and=20 then you can put the triangular piece in its slot and then the springs = (small=20 spring first {:>)).  Note.  Make certain the small spring = goes in=20 as far as you can get it.  Also be careful that the  springs = don't=20 turn side ways as you put them in the slot. 
 
I put masking tape over the coolant galleys = because I have=20 had the small apex piece pop out of its slot (apparently that's what = caused my=20 problem with the over-tight engine rebuild in May and it got trapped in = one of=20 the milled holes of the rotor which provided just enough clearance that = I could=20 button the engine down - but cause problems later on).
 
Taking a small screw driver/awl press down on = the end of=20 the springs until you hear them snap into place.  The end of the = long=20 spring should slide to the outside(under) of  the short = spring=20 and its end should be secured under the notch of the triangular = piece. =20 Once, you have everything in place, I recommend that your rotate the = rotor on=20 the e shaft (assuming the rotor housing is in place) until each = apex seal=20 is exposed in the exhaust housing. Note.  Rotation = can cause the=20 triangular piece to push out of its slot - so check it as you rotate the = rotor.  Then Press on the apex seal with your finger through = the=20 exhaust port to see that it has give -it should feel firm but it = should=20 have some give,  if it does not give, then you really need to check = the=20 spring insertion again.  You don't have to do this step, but it = makes me=20 feel better {:>)
 
So there is no problem facing the triangular = piece to the=20 rear (flywheel end) and my reference all indicates that is the way it = should=20 be.
 
Ed A
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David=20 Leonard
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 = 4:16=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Help!! = Installing=20 Tracy's apex seals

In Bruce's video he talks about putting the corner piece of the = apex seal=20 toward the front of the engine.  But with Tracy's seals the = corner piece=20 is not attached. So I cannot get the apex seal spring to slide in = because the=20 corner piece (now down at the bottom of the slot) has slid back a = little.=20
 
If I put the corner piece toward the rear of the engine, I am = able to get=20 everything in place just fine.
 
Is there any problem with putting the corner pieces in last = (toward the=20 rear of the engine)?

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Dave Leonard
Turbo = Rotary RV-6=20 N4VY
http://memb= ers.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html
http://members= .aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html=20
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