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From: David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Viva la Difference in Conterweights...
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Thanks Rusty - aweesome info.
 Dave Leonard

 On 10/9/05, Russell Duffy <13brv3@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> I measure the thickness of the weight at 1.024" on the Series 4, and 0.92=
0"
> on the S5 counterweight.
>  Can anyone verify these dimensions? Rusty?
>  Good timing Dave. I looked at the hanger for the S4 counterweight the
> other day, and couldn't find it. Next, I looked in the junk parts box in =
the
> attic, nope. Finally, while I was messing with the single rotor today, I
> noticed a pile of parts that I had out when I was building the single. Su=
re
> enough, it was in that pile.
>  So, attached are a couple pics. My measurements are just a bit different
> from yours, but you're correct on which one is which. I annotated the
> measurements and weights on the first pic. The S4 also has an odd milled
> area near the hub, which is visible on the second pic. I'm thinking these
> may be cast, then either drilled or milled as needed to have the correct
> stock balance for that series counterweight. Just a guess though.
>  My other dilemma is my rear counterweight - I don't know which one I
> have. Assuming Mazda used a similar method to change the weight on the re=
ar
> end there may be a measurable difference there as well.
>  Mine measures 0.550. I am hoping it is for a series 5 rotor. Anyone have
> one around that they can measure?
>   You're one your own there, because I don't have one anywhere. It would
> sure be nice to be able to document the difference though.
>  Do you have your engine off, and torn down? I'm dying to know what you
> find.
>  Rusty (single rotor stuff to follow)
>
> --
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>


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<div>Thanks Rusty - aweesome info.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Dave Leonard<br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 10/9/05, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">=
Russell Duffy</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:13brv3@bellsouth.net">13brv3@bellso=
uth.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><span class=3D"q">
<div>I measure the&nbsp;thickness of the weight&nbsp;at 1.024&quot; on the =
Series 4, and 0.920&quot; on the S5 counterweight.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Can anyone verify these dimensions?&nbsp; Rusty?<span><font face=3D"Ar=
ial" color=3D"#ff0000">&nbsp;</font></span></div>
<div><span></span>&nbsp;</div></span>
<div><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#ff0000">Good timing Dave.&nbsp; I=
 looked at the hanger for the S4 counterweight the other day, and couldn't =
find it.&nbsp; Next, I looked in the junk parts box in the attic, nope.&nbs=
p; Finally, while I was messing&nbsp;with the&nbsp;single rotor today, I&nb=
sp;noticed a pile of parts that I had out when I was building the single.&n=
bsp; Sure enough, it was in that pile.&nbsp;&nbsp;
</font></span></div>
<div><span></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#ff0000">So, attached are a couple=
 pics.&nbsp;&nbsp;My measurements are just a bit different from yours, but =
you're correct on which one is which.&nbsp; I&nbsp;annotated the measuremen=
ts and weights on the first pic.&nbsp; The&nbsp;S4 also has an odd milled a=
rea near the hub, which is visible on the second pic.&nbsp; I'm thinking th=
ese may be cast, then either drilled or milled as needed to have the correc=
t&nbsp;stock balance for that series counterweight.&nbsp;&nbsp;Just a guess=
 though.
</font>&nbsp;</span></div><span class=3D"q">
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>My other dilemma is my rear counterweight - I don't know which one I h=
ave.&nbsp; Assuming Mazda used a similar method to change the weight on the=
 rear end there may be a measurable difference there as well.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Mine measures 0.550.&nbsp; I am hoping it is for a series 5 rotor.&nbs=
p; Anyone have one around that they can measure?</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#ff0000">&nbsp;</font></span></div=
></span>
<div><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#ff0000">You're one your own there=
, because I don't have one anywhere.&nbsp; It would sure be nice to be able=
 to document the difference though.&nbsp;&nbsp;</font></span></div>
<div><span></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#ff0000">Do you have your engine o=
ff, and torn down?&nbsp; I'm&nbsp;dying to know what you find.&nbsp;&nbsp;<=
/font></span></div>
<div><span></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#ff0000">Rusty (single rotor stuff=
 to follow)</font></span></div>
<div><span>&nbsp;</span></div><br>--<br>Homepage: &nbsp;<a onclick=3D"retur=
n top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href=3D"http://www.flyrotary.com/"=
 target=3D"_blank">http://www.flyrotary.com/</a><br>Archive and UnSub: &nbs=
p; <a onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href=3D"http=
://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/" target=3D"_blank">
http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/</a><br><br><br><br clear=3D"=
all"></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Dave Leonard<br>Tu=
rbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY<br><a href=3D"http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroste=
r/index.html">
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html</a><br><a href=3D"http=
://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html">http://members.aol.com/_ht_a=
/vp4skydoc/index.html</a>=20

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