Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #26518
From: Finn Lassen <finn.lassen@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Overvoltage control (help Ed A)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 22:46:14 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
This sentence doesn't make sense: "If my crowbar overvoltage opens the B+ circuit..."
Crowbar shorts a circuit to ground. A relay or contactor allows a circuit to open.
The relay could be in line with the wire to the field winding (handling just a few amps) or in line with the B+ wire (output from alternator).

The crowbar typically shorts the field lead to ground, popping its CB or blowing its fuse.

The problem with all this is that these safeguards introduce failure modes of their own:
The crowbar can be triggered by a brief spike and short the voltage to the field winding.

The contactor can stick closed (on) or open (off), and of course uses continuous power to stay closed and adds weight and cost.

If one or all of the main rectifier diodes in the alternator shorts out, you will have an alternating current (voltage) feeding the battery and other loads. I sure hope that the "overvoltage" detector will recognize this and kill the voltage to the field winding or disconnect the wire from the B+ terminal.

I suspect that the regulators in our alternators are very reliable, providing they are adequately cooled. That would be one advantage for having a external regulator: it can be mounted in a cooler location. On the other hand, I don't know how reliable those "cheap" ford regulators are...

It sure would be nice with some real world info from an alternator repair shop as to what are the most common failure modes of the alternators we use.

I'm having a feeling of deja vu. Haven't we discussed this already?

Finn

Jim Sower wrote:

If my crowbar overvoltage opens the B+ circuit, there's NO current flowing out of the alternator.  Absent current, there can be no heat generated.  The field can go to max output, there will be high voltage at the B+ terminal, but no heat generated.  Sounds to me like a bogus concern.  I think the key issue is "... Nuckolls expressed dislike ..." and no further support is "needed".


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