Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #26109
From: Russell Duffy <13brv3@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Fire extinguishers
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 08:00:09 -0500
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Message

Thinking of fire makes me glad I built a pusher.
John

Hi John,
 
There is certainly some benefit to having the fire behind you, but it's also been mentioned that you will have less warning.  As always, it's a tradeoff.
 
I have to believe that there are in-flight fire suppression systems that would probably work, but I'm not sure how feasible it is for us to install them.  They would certainly work on the ground, and in flight, you could limit your airspeed prior to firing it, though I'm not sure that's in the overall best interest of flight safety unless you're sure it will put the fire out.
 
As others have mentioned, you need to be able to shut down all the flammable stuff.  You also need to take care and not use materials that will support combustion.  It's too bad that fiberglass makes such a good cowling, because it's the number one source of combustible material on the other side of the firewall.  
 
Next, you need to make your firewall as good as it can be.  It would also be wise to extend the stainless to other areas that might be subject to flames.  In my case, I'm VERY glad I put stainless on the belly, over the muffler, because that's where the fire was when my oil cooler blew.  Even as I added the material, I remembered an RV-8 guy who blew a jug, and had flames burn through the floor of the plane just behind the firewall.  
 
My plan for a major fire is the parachute.  Unfortunately, I don't always wear it, as was the case when my oil cooler burst.  The second plan is to get down NOW.  I was probably high enough to have made it back to my home airfield, but as soon as I saw the smoke, and smelled the oil burning, I pulled the throttle to idle, and nosed it over to near Vne descent.  I "should" have also turned off the fuel at that point, but I didn't want to shut down the engine when it was still running.  That was a mistake that I will hopefully never repeat, because as long as the engine was still running, the oil was still pumping out onto the exhaust.  In my case, the fire seemed to go out either from the cooling effect of 200 mph of wind, or from the oil running out, and having nothing else to burn.  
 
Being trapped temporarily in an overturned plane is what worries me more than in-flight fire, and that's what I recently purchased a small Halon extinguisher for.  I hope I never get to use it. 
 
Gotta go to a conf call zzzzzz.
 
Cheers,
Rusty (may have a buyer for the RV-3 in it's entirety)   



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