X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [202.52.32.26] (HELO venus3.veridas.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0c1) with ESMTP id 678696 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 05:33:26 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=202.52.32.26; envelope-from=mburke@southernphone.com.au Received: (qmail 8264 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2005 19:32:36 +1000 Received: from dsl-202-52-51-019.nsw.veridas.net (HELO veridas) (202.52.51.19) by southernphone.com.au with SMTP; 23 Aug 2005 19:32:36 +1000 Message-ID: <000301c5a7c5$44c84a60$0401010a@veridas> From: "Michael Burke" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Fire extinguishers Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:30:11 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 > John, here is the manufacturer's link: > http://www.sea-fire.com/p1.htm > The one I was talking about is the smallest FM-200 series. I wonder if they'd cope with our airflow. I'm wondering if the stuff would just fly out the back with all the other air and achieve nothing. John Gentlemen, If I may add my ten cents worth. Fighting fires is something I know a little bit about, especially gas fires. Fighting an engine fire especially, in an aircraft is extremely difficult, because you may not know what the cause of the fire is. The two golden rules in fire fighting is, (1) cool the source, ie broken exhaust pipe, shut off engine, burning cables, shut off master switch, broken fuel line, shut off the control valve. May sound obvious, but do you want to shut off an engine that's running perfectly?. (2) Remove the air (oxygen) source to the fire. Easier said than done, but this is where your dry powder and halon system works to exclude the oxygen from the fire. But they will not work effectively if there is a fresh supply of air to the engine compartment. Therefore the ability to be able to control the air flow into the cowling is paramount. You cannot have a fire without air, and secondly the fire suppressant medium will remain much longer in the cowling thereby helping to prevent a re-ignition. While halon will do an excellent job in putting the fire out, the only way to keep the fire out is to keep the air out, as much as possible anyway until hot metal cools down. Michael. Australia Michael Burke