Return-Path: Received: from [199.185.220.223] (HELO priv-edtnes15-hme0.telusplanet.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.1) with ESMTP id 2531319 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 13:50:14 -0400 Received: from Endurance ([207.194.22.139]) by priv-edtnes15-hme0.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with SMTP id <20030817175012.PIFD22419.priv-edtnes15-hme0.telusplanet.net@Endurance> for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 11:50:12 -0600 From: "Haywire" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Fiberfrax? Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 10:50:05 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0058_01C364AD.519F9AC0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C364AD.519F9AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rusty; As Rick just mentioned, an industrial insulator can probably help you as well. In our mill we have all of the steam turbines fitted with insulating covers that are custom made. They hold up well enough & look pretty good. Just another option. S. Todd Bartrim Turbo 13B RV-9Endurance C-FSTB http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm "Whatever you vividly imagine, Ardently desire, Sincerely believe in, Enthusiastically act upon, Must inevitably come to pass". Rusty, Fiberfrax is an industrial material used for insulating boilers and other high temp areas. You know this, I'm sure. You don't have to get it from A.S.S. or settle for the two sizes they offer, it can be had from an industrial insulation supplier like E J Bartells. As for recommendations for insulation for your turbo, Find the local for the Insulators Union (International Association and Brotherhood of Heat and Frost Insulators) and track down a couple of the members. Ask them for a material, they put it on and take it off every day, and they know what holds up and what doesn't. As for Fiberfrax, it's a replacement for Asbestos and should be handled and, where used, encapsulated just like you would asbestos. The difference between the two fibers isn't that much and there are no long term studies to prove that fibrefrax won't do the same thing to your lungs that asbestos is known to do. Rick Girard ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C364AD.519F9AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi=20 Rusty;

As Rick just mentioned, an industrial insulator = can=20 probably help you as well. In our mill we have all of the steam turbines = fitted=20 with insulating covers that are custom made. They hold up well = enough &=20 look pretty good. Just another option.

S. Todd Bartrim
Turbo 13B = RV-9Endurance
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm

= =20 "Whatever you vividly imagine, Ardently desire, Sincerely believe in,=20 Enthusiastically act upon, Must inevitably come to pass".

Rusty,=20 Fiberfrax is an industrial material used for insulating boilers and = other high=20 temp areas. You know this, I'm sure. You don't have to get it from = A.S.S. or=20 settle for the two sizes they offer, it can be had from an industrial=20 insulation supplier like E J Bartells. As for recommendations for = insulation=20 for your turbo, Find the local for the Insulators Union (International = Association and Brotherhood of Heat and Frost Insulators) and = track down=20 a couple of the members. Ask them for a material, they put it on and = take it=20 off every day, and they know what holds up and what doesn't. As for = Fiberfrax,=20 it's a replacement for Asbestos and should be handled and, where used, = encapsulated just like you would asbestos. The difference between the = two=20 fibers isn't that much and there are no long term studies to prove = that=20 fibrefrax won't do the same thing to your lungs that asbestos is known = to=20 do.

Rick Girard
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