X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [207.230.226.92] (HELO canformail1.canfor.ca) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with ESMTP id 615574 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:26:16 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.230.226.92; envelope-from=Steve.Bartrim@canfor.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C59207.04C62D78" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: There's a P-38 Lightning in my backyard! Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:25:29 -0700 Message-ID: <091A2D42FAF91A41B84750D269FC97E72B3175@canformail1.canfor.ca> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: There's a P-38 Lightning in my backyard! Thread-Index: AcWR4DdLvhwUbyjgQcibmV5wBodTWwAI34Mg From: "Bartrim, Todd" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C59207.04C62D78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dave; My info was just from the local story, however this morning I did a little more research and found that in fact it would have been an Allison engine. There was a model 322 which was built for Britain but the US army refused to supply them with the turbocharger necessary for it's high altitude performance, so the Brits were going to convert them to the RR Merlin but it apparently never happened and there was only a total of 3 model 322 ever built. So it appears you would be correct and that it would be an Allison engine under that mud. Still pretty darn cool. Another detail is that there were 2 people killed in the crash, the pilot and a 12 year old boy that he was taking for a ride. But the P-38 was a single place fighter in it's original configuration, however it appears that a great many of these were converted to an F-5 model for reconnaissance duties. It seems that some versions of these were 2 place, so this must have been the case. Since the plane was being used for aerial photography in this area, I'd guess that this is likely an F-5 model. The other possibility is that the local story isn't correct and that it isn't even a P-38, however I've heard it often enough from old-timers that I think this unlikely, but I'd like to get some further confirmation of this. =20 Todd ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of david mccandless Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:47 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: There's a P-38 Lightning in my backyard! =09 =09 Hi Todd,=20 I am surprised, I thought all P38s had Allison V 12s. Were Canadian P38s built in Canada fitted with RR Merlins? Congrats, Dave McC On 26/07/2005, at 4:06 PM, Todd Bartrim wrote:=20 This would have been a Rolls Royce Merlin V-12, so while restoration to operational status is beyond question it would be interesting to excavate it and clean it up for display simply to preserve a unique piece of local aviation history.=20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C59207.04C62D78 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Dave;

My info was just from the local = story, however=20 this morning I did a little more research and found that in fact it = would=20 have been an Allison engine. There was a model 322 which was built for = Britain=20 but the US army refused to supply them with the turbocharger necessary = for it's=20 high altitude performance, so the Brits were going to convert them to = the RR=20 Merlin but it apparently never happened and there was only a total of 3 = model=20 322 ever built. So it appears you would be correct and that it would be = an=20 Allison engine under that mud. Still pretty darn = cool.

Another detail is that there = were 2 people=20 killed in the crash, the pilot and a 12 year old boy that he was taking = for a=20 ride. But the P-38 was a single place fighter in it's original = configuration,=20 however it appears that a great many of these were converted to an F-5 = model for=20 reconnaissance duties. It seems that some versions of these were 2 = place, so=20 this must have been the case. Since the plane was being used for aerial=20 photography in this area, I'd guess that this is likely an F-5 model. = The other=20 possibility is that the local story isn't correct and that it isn't even = a P-38,=20 however I've heard it often enough from old-timers that I think this = unlikely,=20 but I'd like to get some further confirmation of=20 this.

Todd

From: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of david=20 mccandless
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:47 = AM
To: Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: There's a P-38 = Lightning=20 in my backyard!

Hi Todd,

I am surprised, I thought all P38s had Allison V 12s. Were = Canadian P38s=20 built in Canada fitted with RR Merlins? Congrats, Dave McC

On 26/07/2005, at 4:06 PM, Todd Bartrim wrote:

This would have been a Rolls Royce = Merlin V-12,=20 so while restoration to operational status is beyond question it = would be=20 interesting to excavate it and clean it up for display simply to = preserve a=20 unique piece of local aviation history.

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