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From: "Michael D. Callahan" <micallahan@worldnet.att.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] It is worse than you think (was: FAA - we're here to help you)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:13:52 -0500
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    Guys, the point you are mising here is that they did NOT become disabled
or find out they had these illnesses while they had a medical. They LIED
about these things to the AME in order to get their new medical. If their
medical records had been compromised, they wouldn't have gotten a medical to
begin with. Note that the investigation was a combination of the FAA and the
fraud dep of the Social Security Admin.
    Somebody at Social Security obviously noticed that this guy who was
recieving SSI disability benefits because he was too mentally or
cardiolgically incapacitated to hold down a steady job was somehow paying
Social Security payments on his side job, heheh. Greedy dumbasses. Even
those guys with the lawn maintenance jobs on the side are brighter than that
and work cash-only. These guys got busted, that's all there is to it.
    As for losing your medical.... yes, if you lose your medical you can
still drive a car, but you can no longer fly a plane other than a Part 103
ultralight (not considered to be a plane just as a go-cart is not considered
to be a car). If you fly a plane with a known deficiency, even with a
current medical, you are illegal. If you do not renew your medical because
you KNOW you have a disqualifying condition and try to fly Sport/Light, you
are still NOT legal to fly even under Sport/Light. If you do not renew, you
are "self-certifying" that you meet the same standards as if you HAD a
current medical.
    If you ding your Cub while flying under Sport/Light with no medical, an
expired medical, or even with a current medical, and they find out you have
a pacemaker... it's your head on a platter guys. You were not technically
fit to fly. Yes, it is probably a dumb thing, but that's the rules of the
game and if you are going to play the game, you BETTER know the rules. This
Sport/Light Self-Certifying medical thing is going to get a LOT of folks in
deep doo-doo.  Mike C.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Dube" <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:39 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] It is worse than you think (was: FAA - we're here to
help you)


>
> >
> >I wouldn't get so excited about this sort of thing yet, Dave.  First off,
> >they only found 48 problems in 40,000.
>
>          An important issue that most folks haven't noticed is that they
> searched the medical records of everyone that holds a pilot's license and
> reported a disability. Were any of us notified that our private medical
> records had been searched? How many folk's private medical records were
> searched without probable cause? Does holding a pilot's license somehow
> give the FAA permission to search your private medical records without
even
> telling you about it? Apparently, it does.
>
>          Disability comes in many flavors. A person can be disabled
because
> they are allergic to some chemical at work. A person could lose a foot or
a
> hand. A person could have arthritis, or carpel tunnel syndrome. There are
> plenty of disabilities that would prevent you from doing a specific job,
> but have no influence on your ability to fly an airplane.
>
>          Under the Patriot Act, they can search your medical records
> without telling you EVER. Your doctor is not even allowed to ask his
lawyer
> if he must comply with the search or find out what records can be
excluded.
> Your doctor is forbidden from telling you that your records have been
> searched, ever.
>
>          Scary, huh.....
>
>          Bill Dube'
>
>
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