----- Original Message -----

From: George Lendich

To: Rotary motors in aircraft

Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:13 AM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FAA - we're here to help you

Mike,

We must have different rules down here!

If you lose your medical, you can still drive your car and you only need a Car licence for Light Sport category  - to my knowledge. Although it's not due to be implemented here in Australia until September, there could be some guidelines as you indicate.

I know people with blood pressure and Diabetes lose their medical - but doesn't stop them from driving their cars.

George ( down under)

IF you LOSE your medical, you can NOT indeed drive your car and still fly a sport/light. If your medical is revoked you are through flying anything but 103 ultralights. This is going to get a LOT of guys fried. If you have a know diagnosed illness that would preclude you getting a medical, you CANNOT fly a sport/light even if you have a drivers lisence. If you have a medical and fly with a know deficiency, it is the same as NOT having a medical, even if you do not see a doctor. Fair or not, that's the rules and those who try to skirt the rules and get caught are going to be in a hell of a mess.  Mike C.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: George Lendich

To: Rotary motors in aircraft

Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:09 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FAA - we're here to help you

Kevin,

Being on a Disability pension don't stop you flying a plane. It may make it harder to get a medical clearance and you won't get a clearance if your on Medication, such as mind bending drugs e.g. Pilots with past Depression and Bipolar can get Medicals - Paranoid Schizophrenia is only controlled by mind bending drugs, so that one's a NO NO!

One must be upfront with the details however - some have suggested that it's easier to lie than get a medical with past medical conditions. I notice a lot of chaps losing their medicals for Diabetes and Blood Pressure etc.

 

However you can still drive a car and fly Light Sport Category.

George ( down under)

Saw this in today's _New York Times_.

July 20, 2005
U.S. Says 46 Pilots Lied to Obtain Their Licenses
By CAROLYN MARSHALL
SAN FRANCISCO, July 19 - Prosecutors in Northern California have
charged 46 pilots with lying to federal authorities to obtain airplane
licenses, in most cases not disclosing debilitating illnesses that
should have kept them grounded.

The pilots, who were indicted this week by grand juries in the eastern
and northern federal districts of California, were identified during
an 18-month criminal air traffic safety investigation by the
Department of Transportation and the Social Security Administration
that looked into licensed pilots who were also receiving disability
benefits and payments from the government.

The investigation, initiated in July 2003, included a review of more
than 40,000 pilot licenses issued in Northern California to determine
whether there had been any misuse or abuse of Social Security numbers.
The authorities reviewed licenses held by both commercial and private
pilots and found that some license applicants claimed to be medically
fit to fly an airplane yet were simultaneously receiving disability
benefits.

"The fraud and falsification allegedly committed by these individuals
is extremely serious and adversely affects the public interest in air
safety," said Nicholas Sabatini, an associate administrator with the
Federal Aviation Administration.

Charles H. Lee Jr., an assistant inspector general for investigations
at the Department of Transportation, said the reviewers first focused
their investigation on 48 pilots, most of whom were receiving
disability payments for illnesses like paranoid schizophrenia, bipolar
disorder and disabling heart conditions.

One case, Mr. Lee said, even involved someone who exhibited severe
suicidal tendencies.

"To get their certificates, these people had to lie or falsify
paperwork," Mr. Lee said. "The F.A.A. has rules and regulations
regarding medical conditions and deemed that all 48 had medical
disabilities that would have disqualified them from holding pilot
certificates."

Two cases were dropped, Mr. Lee said, one because the pilot died. He
declined to comment about whether similar investigations were under
way in other states.

Of the 46 pilots that Mr. Lee said were charged, 7 held commercial
pilot certificates that would have allowed them to fly as well as
carry cargo; another 4 pilots held air transportation pilot
certificates which would let them transport passengers.

Of the remaining indicted pilots, 28 had private pilot licenses, and 7
had student licenses.

A charge of lying to the federal authorities carries a penalty of up
to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. A charge of falsifying
records carries a penalty of up to one year in prison and a $100,000
fine.

According to court documents, the pilots who were indicted failed to
provide accurate medical history forms, as required by the F.A.A., in
some cases lying about a previous illness or claiming that there had
been no previous medical diagnosis or treatment for conditions that
the pilots knew they had.

Laura Brown, a spokeswoman for the F.A.A., said that pilots could
obtain a license only after they submit oral and written tests and
current medical certificates. Those certificates can be issued only by
an aviation medical examiner registered with the agency. Certain
medical conditions would disqualify an applicant from receiving a
license.

"The reason we have disqualifying conditions is to ensure that pilots
are not a danger to others, in the air or on the ground," Ms. Brown
said.

Ms. Brown said that the pilots were charged with either making false
statements to a federal official or delivering to a federal official a
false written record. She added that 14 of the pilots held active
pilot licenses, which were immediately revoked.

The remaining pilots had licenses that had either lapsed or were
missing current information, which would not prevent them from flying
a private plane.

"It's similar to when people go out and drive cars without a license,
or drive cars when intoxicated," Ms. Brown said. "It's illegal but
they do it."

At least one of the indicted pilots appeared in Federal District Court
in Sacramento on Tuesday. The remaining pilots will be arraigned
individually in the coming weeks.

Kevin Lane  Portland, OR
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