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Dave,
George may not be aware of the Social
Security frauds we have. I had a friend who was a doctor's assistant for an
orthopedic surgeon. The stories he told made me so mad I couldn't see
straight.
Guys on disability who would whine and
complain that they couldn't work due to severe back pain. Docs would load them
up with prescription pain killers, paid by insurance. Same guys would have
calloused hands and nice suntans... been running a cash-only lawn service
company on the side. A couple of these low-lifes got caught on video and
lost their benefits.
I agree that a pilot, especially a
commercial pilot cannot be on disability and still be well enough to fly for
hire. The situation on the medical is plenty clear. You give false info and get
caught, you will be in trouble. Mike C.
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Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:00
PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FAA - we're here
to help you
George, that is a bunch of BS!! If you are so disabled that you are
completely unable to contribute to society and hold down a job, then you are
too disabled to be flying a plane, especially with a commercial rating.
Are these people "DISABLED" or not. I mean really, if your mental or
other disorder means you just can't show up to work each day, then I don't
want you flying over my house. Lets face it. These people are scam
artists, living off the rest of us who put in our 60 hrs/wk.
...I'm so crazy I can't show up to work so you all must pay me, but I
seem to do fine flying passengers around the sky...
Dave Leonard
On 7/20/05, George
Lendich <lendich@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
Kevin,
Being on a Disability pension don't stop you
flying a plane. It may make it harder to get a medical clearance and you
won't get a clearance if your on Medication, such as mind bending drugs e.g.
Pilots with past Depression and Bipolar can get Medicals - Paranoid
Schizophrenia is only controlled by mind bending drugs, so that one's a
NO NO!
One must be upfront with the details however - some
have suggested that it's easier to lie than get a medical with past medical
conditions. I notice a lot of chaps losing their medicals for Diabetes and
Blood Pressure etc.
However you can still drive a car and fly Light Sport
Category.
George ( down under)
Saw this in today's _New York Times_.
July 20, 2005 U.S.
Says 46 Pilots Lied to Obtain Their Licenses By CAROLYN MARSHALL SAN
FRANCISCO, July 19 - Prosecutors in Northern California have charged 46
pilots with lying to federal authorities to obtain airplane licenses,
in most cases not disclosing debilitating illnesses that should have
kept them grounded.
The pilots, who were indicted this week by
grand juries in the eastern and northern federal districts of
California, were identified during an 18-month criminal air traffic
safety investigation by the Department of Transportation and the Social
Security Administration that looked into licensed pilots who were also
receiving disability benefits and payments from the government.
The investigation, initiated in July 2003, included a review of
more than 40,000 pilot licenses issued in Northern California to
determine whether there had been any misuse or abuse of Social Security
numbers. The authorities reviewed licenses held by both commercial and
private pilots and found that some license applicants claimed to be
medically fit to fly an airplane yet were simultaneously receiving
disability benefits.
"The fraud and falsification allegedly
committed by these individuals is extremely serious and adversely
affects the public interest in air safety," said Nicholas Sabatini, an
associate administrator with the Federal Aviation
Administration.
Charles H. Lee Jr., an assistant inspector general
for investigations at the Department of Transportation, said the
reviewers first focused their investigation on 48 pilots, most of whom
were receiving disability payments for illnesses like paranoid
schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and disabling heart
conditions.
One case, Mr. Lee said, even involved someone who
exhibited severe suicidal tendencies.
"To get their
certificates, these people had to lie or falsify paperwork," Mr. Lee
said. "The F.A.A. has rules and regulations regarding medical
conditions and deemed that all 48 had medical disabilities that would
have disqualified them from holding pilot certificates."
Two
cases were dropped, Mr. Lee said, one because the pilot died.
He declined to comment about whether similar investigations were
under way in other states.
Of the 46 pilots that Mr. Lee said
were charged, 7 held commercial pilot certificates that would have
allowed them to fly as well as carry cargo; another 4 pilots held air
transportation pilot certificates which would let them transport
passengers.
Of the remaining indicted pilots, 28 had private pilot
licenses, and 7 had student licenses.
A charge of lying to the
federal authorities carries a penalty of up to five years in prison and
a $250,000 fine. A charge of falsifying records carries a penalty of up
to one year in prison and a $100,000 fine.
According to court
documents, the pilots who were indicted failed to provide accurate
medical history forms, as required by the F.A.A., in some cases lying
about a previous illness or claiming that there had been no previous
medical diagnosis or treatment for conditions that the pilots knew they
had.
Laura Brown, a spokeswoman for the F.A.A., said that pilots
could obtain a license only after they submit oral and written tests
and current medical certificates. Those certificates can be issued
only by an aviation medical examiner registered with the agency.
Certain medical conditions would disqualify an applicant from receiving
a license.
"The reason we have disqualifying conditions is to
ensure that pilots are not a danger to others, in the air or on the
ground," Ms. Brown said.
Ms. Brown said that the pilots were
charged with either making false statements to a federal official or
delivering to a federal official a false written record. She added that
14 of the pilots held active pilot licenses, which were immediately
revoked.
The remaining pilots had licenses that had either lapsed
or were missing current information, which would not prevent them from
flying a private plane.
"It's similar to when people go out and
drive cars without a license, or drive cars when intoxicated," Ms.
Brown said. "It's illegal but they do it."
At least one of the
indicted pilots appeared in Federal District Court in Sacramento on
Tuesday. The remaining pilots will be arraigned individually in the
coming weeks.
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