X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.132.197] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with ESMTPS id 220833 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:09:06 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.132.197; envelope-from=lendich@optusnet.com.au Received: from george (d211-31-217-122.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.31.217.122]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j6L08G77029206 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:08:18 +1000 Message-ID: <000f01c58d88$66cc4960$7ad91fd3@george> From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] FAA - we're here to help you Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:09:01 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C58DDC.37C11750" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C58DDC.37C11750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kevin, Being on a Disability pension don't stop you flying a plane. It may make = it harder to get a medical clearance and you won't get a clearance if = your on Medication, such as mind bending drugs e.g. Pilots with past = Depression and Bipolar can get Medicals - Paranoid Schizophrenia is only = controlled by mind bending drugs, so that one's a NO NO! One must be upfront with the details however - some have suggested that = it's easier to lie than get a medical with past medical conditions. I = notice a lot of chaps losing their medicals for Diabetes and Blood = Pressure etc. However you can still drive a car and fly Light Sport Category. George ( down under) Saw this in today's _New York Times_. July 20, 2005 U.S. Says 46 Pilots Lied to Obtain Their Licenses By CAROLYN MARSHALL SAN FRANCISCO, July 19 - Prosecutors in Northern California have charged 46 pilots with lying to federal authorities to obtain airplane licenses, in most cases not disclosing debilitating illnesses that should have kept them grounded. The pilots, who were indicted this week by grand juries in the eastern and northern federal districts of California, were identified during an 18-month criminal air traffic safety investigation by the Department of Transportation and the Social Security Administration that looked into licensed pilots who were also receiving disability benefits and payments from the government. The investigation, initiated in July 2003, included a review of more than 40,000 pilot licenses issued in Northern California to determine whether there had been any misuse or abuse of Social Security numbers. The authorities reviewed licenses held by both commercial and private pilots and found that some license applicants claimed to be medically fit to fly an airplane yet were simultaneously receiving disability benefits. "The fraud and falsification allegedly committed by these individuals is extremely serious and adversely affects the public interest in air safety," said Nicholas Sabatini, an associate administrator with the Federal Aviation Administration. Charles H. Lee Jr., an assistant inspector general for investigations at the Department of Transportation, said the reviewers first focused their investigation on 48 pilots, most of whom were receiving disability payments for illnesses like paranoid schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and disabling heart conditions. One case, Mr. Lee said, even involved someone who exhibited severe suicidal tendencies. "To get their certificates, these people had to lie or falsify paperwork," Mr. Lee said. "The F.A.A. has rules and regulations regarding medical conditions and deemed that all 48 had medical disabilities that would have disqualified them from holding pilot certificates." Two cases were dropped, Mr. Lee said, one because the pilot died. He declined to comment about whether similar investigations were under way in other states. Of the 46 pilots that Mr. Lee said were charged, 7 held commercial pilot certificates that would have allowed them to fly as well as carry cargo; another 4 pilots held air transportation pilot certificates which would let them transport passengers. Of the remaining indicted pilots, 28 had private pilot licenses, and 7 had student licenses. A charge of lying to the federal authorities carries a penalty of up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. A charge of falsifying records carries a penalty of up to one year in prison and a $100,000 fine. According to court documents, the pilots who were indicted failed to provide accurate medical history forms, as required by the F.A.A., in some cases lying about a previous illness or claiming that there had been no previous medical diagnosis or treatment for conditions that the pilots knew they had. Laura Brown, a spokeswoman for the F.A.A., said that pilots could obtain a license only after they submit oral and written tests and current medical certificates. Those certificates can be issued only by an aviation medical examiner registered with the agency. Certain medical conditions would disqualify an applicant from receiving a license. "The reason we have disqualifying conditions is to ensure that pilots are not a danger to others, in the air or on the ground," Ms. Brown said. Ms. Brown said that the pilots were charged with either making false statements to a federal official or delivering to a federal official a false written record. She added that 14 of the pilots held active pilot licenses, which were immediately revoked. The remaining pilots had licenses that had either lapsed or were missing current information, which would not prevent them from flying a private plane. "It's similar to when people go out and drive cars without a license, or drive cars when intoxicated," Ms. Brown said. "It's illegal but they do it." At least one of the indicted pilots appeared in Federal District Court in Sacramento on Tuesday. The remaining pilots will be arraigned individually in the coming weeks. Kevin Lane Portland, OR e-mail-> n3773@comcast.net ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C58DDC.37C11750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kevin,
Being on a Disability pension don't stop = you flying a=20 plane. It may make it harder to get a medical clearance and you won't = get a=20 clearance if your on Medication, such as mind bending drugs e.g. Pilots = with=20 past Depression and Bipolar can get Medicals - Paranoid=20 Schizophrenia is only controlled by mind bending drugs, so that = one's a NO=20 NO!
One must be upfront with the details however - = some have=20 suggested that it's easier to lie than get a medical with past medical=20 conditions. I notice a lot of chaps losing their medicals for Diabetes = and Blood=20 Pressure etc.
 
However you can still drive a car and fly Light = Sport=20 Category.
George ( down under)
Saw this in today's _New York Times_.

July 20, = 2005
U.S. Says=20 46 Pilots Lied to Obtain Their Licenses
By CAROLYN MARSHALL
SAN=20 FRANCISCO, July 19 - Prosecutors in Northern California = have
charged 46=20 pilots with lying to federal authorities to obtain = airplane
licenses, in=20 most cases not disclosing debilitating illnesses that
should have = kept them=20 grounded.

The pilots, who were indicted this week by grand = juries in=20 the eastern
and northern federal districts of California, were = identified=20 during
an 18-month criminal air traffic safety investigation by=20 the
Department of Transportation and the Social Security=20 Administration
that looked into licensed pilots who were also = receiving=20 disability
benefits and payments from the government.

The=20 investigation, initiated in July 2003, included a review of = more
than=20 40,000 pilot licenses issued in Northern California to = determine
whether=20 there had been any misuse or abuse of Social Security numbers.
The=20 authorities reviewed licenses held by both commercial and = private
pilots=20 and found that some license applicants claimed to be medically
fit = to fly=20 an airplane yet were simultaneously receiving=20 disability
benefits.

"The fraud and falsification allegedly=20 committed by these individuals
is extremely serious and adversely = affects=20 the public interest in air
safety," said Nicholas Sabatini, an = associate=20 administrator with the
Federal Aviation = Administration.

Charles H.=20 Lee Jr., an assistant inspector general for investigations
at the=20 Department of Transportation, said the reviewers first = focused
their=20 investigation on 48 pilots, most of whom were receiving
disability = payments=20 for illnesses like paranoid schizophrenia, bipolar
disorder and = disabling=20 heart conditions.

One case, Mr. Lee said, even involved someone = who=20 exhibited severe
suicidal tendencies.

"To get their = certificates,=20 these people had to lie or falsify
paperwork," Mr. Lee said. "The = F.A.A.=20 has rules and regulations
regarding medical conditions and deemed = that all=20 48 had medical
disabilities that would have disqualified them from = holding=20 pilot
certificates."

Two cases were dropped, Mr. Lee said, = one=20 because the pilot died. He
declined to comment about whether = similar=20 investigations were under
way in other states.

Of the 46 = pilots that=20 Mr. Lee said were charged, 7 held commercial
pilot certificates = that would=20 have allowed them to fly as well as
carry cargo; another 4 pilots = held air=20 transportation pilot
certificates which would let them transport=20 passengers.

Of the remaining indicted pilots, 28 had private = pilot=20 licenses, and 7
had student licenses.

A charge of lying to = the=20 federal authorities carries a penalty of up
to five years in prison = and a=20 $250,000 fine. A charge of falsifying
records carries a penalty of = up to=20 one year in prison and a $100,000
fine.

According to court=20 documents, the pilots who were indicted failed to
provide accurate = medical=20 history forms, as required by the F.A.A., in
some cases lying about = a=20 previous illness or claiming that there had
been no previous = medical=20 diagnosis or treatment for conditions that
the pilots knew they=20 had.

Laura Brown, a spokeswoman for the F.A.A., said that = pilots=20 could
obtain a license only after they submit oral and written = tests=20 and
current medical certificates. Those certificates can be issued = only=20 by
an aviation medical examiner registered with the agency.=20 Certain
medical conditions would disqualify an applicant from = receiving=20 a
license.

"The reason we have disqualifying conditions is = to ensure=20 that pilots
are not a danger to others, in the air or on the = ground," Ms.=20 Brown
said.

Ms. Brown said that the pilots were charged with = either=20 making false
statements to a federal official or delivering to a = federal=20 official a
false written record. She added that 14 of the pilots = held=20 active
pilot licenses, which were immediately revoked.

The = remaining=20 pilots had licenses that had either lapsed or were
missing current=20 information, which would not prevent them from flying
a private=20 plane.

"It's similar to when people go out and drive cars = without a=20 license,
or drive cars when intoxicated," Ms. Brown said. "It's = illegal=20 but
they do it."

At least one of the indicted pilots = appeared in=20 Federal District Court
in Sacramento on Tuesday. The remaining = pilots will=20 be arraigned
individually in the coming weeks.
Kevin Lane  Portland, OR
e-mail-> n3773@comcast.net
 
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