George,

I found my = receipt=20 from Creavy Seal Co. Unfortunately, it is only for one coolant = seal, and=20 both oil seals.

As for the = outer=20 coolant seal=85 Originally I ordered a set of SIL .093 =96 11.340 ID=20 o-rings. These proved to be too big and I had to send them = back. =20 Note that 11.340 minus .090 is 11.230=85 the correct size. I had = given=20 them a size based on CL, not ID. So, be sure you=92re on the = same page=20 when ordering these things. After a few emails to Jeff Chrysler, = we got=20 it right on the re-order with these numbers=85 SIL .093 =96 11.230. These fit=20 perfectly. I can find no records for what I ordered on the inner = coolant=20 seals. Here is an email I sent to Jeff Chrysler at Creavy Seal = after=20 fit-checking the new outer coolant = o-rings.

<snip>

Attn: Jeff = Chrysler

Hi Jeff,

The reworked TES o-rings fit perfect. = Final=20 dimension for the outer coolant o-rings is .093 x 11.230" ID. = Thank you=20 so much for all your help. I can start putting my engine back = together=20 now. I have passed this information along to Paul Lamar as = well. =20 This size should work for all 13B and 20B engines, but you may want to = verify=20 size before using it for the new Renesis engines. =20

Thanks again for your=20 assistance,

Mark Steitle

<snip>

The = information for=20 the two oil seals are SIL .093 =96 4.680 ID, and SIL .118 =96 4.330=20 ID.

Hope this=20 helps,

Mark=20

From:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of George Lendich
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 = 6:33=20 PM
To: = Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: TES = "O"=20 Rings

Thank the Lord for small = mercies!

At least we have a = consensus on=20 that, I was thinking Oh No! not another =20 variation.

George (down=20 under)

Kelly,

On second = though, I=20 believe you=92re right and I was wrong. Creavy works with ID, = not=20 CL.

Mark

From:=20 Rotary motors in = aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of Kelly Troyer
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 = 10:41=20 AM
To: = Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: TES = "O"=20 Rings

Cary,

Thanks for the input.......What we = are trying=20 to do is get final and absolute

numbers on the sizes required........One = of the=20 first requirements is for all to

be on the same page with = measurements.......Previous=20 reports have shown

ID's , OD's , Center diameter and/or total = length........I seem to remember reading=20

a previous post that "Creavey" preferred = working=20 with a ID measurement

but Mark just posted that the Center = diameter is=20 what they use ?? Bottom

line we all need to be on the same page = among=20 ourselves and with "Creavey".

FWIW

--
Kelly Troyer
Dyke = Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2

-------------- Original message from = jbeazley=20 <jbeazley@magma.ca>: --------------

> Hi = Kelly;=20
>
> I believe Paul's numbers worked out to be: =
>=20
> Oil O-rings
> 0.093 x 4.68
> 0.118 x 4.33 =
>=20
> coolant O-rings
> 0.093 x 8.932 (0.098 not = available)=20
> 0.093 x 11.182
>
>
> I ordered the = coolant=20 orings with 9.00 and 11.25 ID, they fit without
> = stretching and=20 had a bit of slack, I would get slightly smaller next
> = time.=20
> I should also add these were for an '86 NA. I assume they = are all=20
> supposed
> to be the same but I have seen some = casting=20 differences between
> housings.
>
> The 0.093 = x 8.932=20 were originally listed as .098 but I was told by
> Creavey =
>=20 this size is not available.
> These appear to be narrow in = the wide=20 groove but have an approximately
> correct "nominal = squeeze".=20
> Biggest problem seems to be getting the oring to stay in = the=20 groove
> with minimal hylomar during installation.
> =
> I believe the ones you want are the SIL/PFA o-rings good = to 500F.=20
> Ask for them specifically.
>
> Haven't run = the=20 engine yet to give any real feedback.
>
> Cheers =
>=20 Cary=20
>
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