X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.69] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with ESMTP id 180355 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:21:17 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.69; envelope-from=conserreceipts@earthlink.net Received: from [71.36.195.230] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DuttX-00087G-AY for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:20:31 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=Voq2BSh5GXGLzD4ioRG3+UOQRFmdpILB7aeGZb2AoHexGWiWcA5bvu8rIwNALJhZ; Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <2f32ec85d2ee0bcbb551f293fe73c335@earthlink.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Hans Conser Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Surge, wastegate, Evans, and Anesthesia Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:20:31 -0600 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-ELNK-Trace: 5ac105a4e8955dfc1c762eb5f2279a5694f5150ab1c16ac0284cce77b6014d5fcbcc9ad4af5f4c1e8c6bc57c8717ed60350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.36.195.230 On Jul 18, 2005, at 11:36 PM, David Leonard wrote: > In my last episode, I was battling compressor surge (stall) and going=20= > to try to put a hole in the intake system to create more flow.=A0=A0 = The=20 > thought was that would allow me to open up the throttle more, decrease=20= > the apparent pressure ratio to the turbo (because of reduced throttle=20= > body losses) and allow for more flow.=A0 No good...=A0 I made a hole=20= > working up to 1/2 inch in dia which created a noticeable difference in=20= > throttle position for a given boost but no improvement in the=20 > occurrence of surge. > =A0 > Well, I finally graduated my residency last week and now will be=20 > working much less, including 3 weeks of vacation.=A0 The first of = which=20 > I spent at the hangar.=A0 I decided to just open up the wastegate..=A0 = I=20 > removed the flapper valve all together, opening up the waste gate=20 > significantly.=A0 I was worried that it might be too much and I would=20= > not be getting any boost.=A0 But with the flapper removed I still can=20= > make 40"MAP on take off, my RPM for a given MAP is improved (probably=20= > because of decreased back pressure) and thermal rejection may be=20 > improved as well.=A0 All in all it was a good move because my limiting=20= > factor is still cooling. > =A0 > More stats later as I am flying to the mountains tomorrow...=A0 The = wife=20 > is even going to come along. > --=20 > Dave Leonard > Congratulations Dave on finishing your residency. "There may be unnecessary surgeries, but there is never unnecessary=20 anesthesia" Hans Conser