X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.196] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with ESMTP id 180048 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:37:53 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.233.162.196; envelope-from=wdleonard@gmail.com Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s18so1063550nze for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:37:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=gxE/ci8EG7WzjqMINq9z7j88NbhIa85T5r9hRkaqYOScqWI+pfdVTpSQBIeyE/eatUVhwYIGycMoA5Tyw8+dI+xoZ2qvoTN0zTBoVw3K0xrNO9WtNIK23xJyVw1BvM5QARTqHqdNjFgvjxuCcoHEVQsSIuSsp1yRjBVnGgeWoTA= Received: by 10.36.13.13 with SMTP id 13mr4809688nzm; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.9.4 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c23473f050718223677e2684b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:36:39 -0700 From: David Leonard Reply-To: David Leonard To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Surge, wastegate, Evans, and Anesthesia In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2757_28078363.1121751399922" References: ------=_Part_2757_28078363.1121751399922 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline In my last episode, I was battling compressor surge (stall) and going to tr= y=20 to put a hole in the intake system to create more flow. The thought was tha= t=20 would allow me to open up the throttle more, decrease the apparent pressure= =20 ratio to the turbo (because of reduced throttle body losses) and allow for= =20 more flow. No good... I made a hole working up to 1/2 inch in dia which=20 created a noticeable difference in throttle position for a given boost but= =20 no improvement in the occurrence of surge. Well, I finally graduated my residency last week and now will be working= =20 much less, including 3 weeks of vacation. The first of which I spent at the= =20 hangar. I decided to just open up the wastegate.. I removed the flapper=20 valve all together, opening up the waste gate significantly. I was worried= =20 that it might be too much and I would not be getting any boost. But with th= e=20 flapper removed I still can make 40"MAP on take off, my RPM for a given MAP= =20 is improved (probably because of decreased back pressure) and thermal=20 rejection may be improved as well. All in all it was a good move because my= =20 limiting factor is still cooling. More stats later as I am flying to the mountains tomorrow... The wife is= =20 even going to come along. --=20 Dave Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html http://members.aol.com/vp4skydoc/index.html ------=_Part_2757_28078363.1121751399922 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
In my last episode, I was battling compressor surge (stall) and going = to try to put a hole in the intake system to create more flow.   = The thought was that would allow me to open up the throttle more, decrease = the apparent pressure ratio to the turbo (because of reduced throttle body = losses) and allow for more flow.  No good...  I made a hole worki= ng up to 1/2 inch in dia which created a noticeable difference in throttle = position for a given boost but no improvement in the occurrence of surge.
 
Well, I finally graduated my residency last week and now will be worki= ng much less, including 3 weeks of vacation.  The first of which I spe= nt at the hangar.  I decided to just open up the wastegate..  I r= emoved the flapper valve all together, opening up the waste gate significan= tly.  I was worried that it might be too much and I would not be getti= ng any boost.  But with the flapper removed I still can make 40"M= AP on take off, my RPM for a given MAP is improved (probably because of dec= reased back pressure) and thermal rejection may be improved as well.  = All in all it was a good move because my limiting factor is still cooling.
 
More stats later as I am flying to the mountains tomorrow...  The= wife is even going to come along.
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Dave Leonard
Turbo Rotary R= V-6 N4VY
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html
http://members.aol.com/vp4skydoc/i= ndex.html
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