X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.65] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.5) with ESMTP id 1027590 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:10:31 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.65; envelope-from=jerryhey@earthlink.net Received: from [71.2.107.92] (helo=earthlink.net) by smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Do5M2-0006GV-OV for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:09:47 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Date:Subject:Content-Type:Mime-Version:From:To:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=hJxPn7evXQlMspaoWmSaR+OMphoJzIekvLwRihm/M+oCBPg25E9PFAOM0/YzM0Yd; Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:12:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: P Ports working on dyno Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-23-121200616 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Jerry Hey To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <3808B8CE-E9A3-11D9-91E7-0003931B0C7A@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-ELNK-Trace: 8104856d7830ec6b1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec791525e3d6647b4e119fa4a51b6d5c2ffc350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.2.107.92 --Apple-Mail-23-121200616 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Bill, do you think the misunderstanding of the design was more=20 widespread. I think PL did not grasp it either. My recollection back=20= then did not include the center pipe but I could easily be wrong. I=20 wrote Ed for clarification. More importantly, I like the design and=20= if my system proves inadequate, I will build a version of yours. =20 Seems like the outlet opening around the tube where it enters the=20 tailpipe might be restrictive. Jerry On Thursday, June 30, 2005, at 02:52 PM, wrjjrs@aol.com wrote: > Bill, I did get the jpeg and I really like the concept. I never saw=20 > the original VAM. Ed told me about how it was chopped up to fit=20 > Tracy's test engine. I asked what was inside it and he said "nothing."=20= > =A0 Originally I can recall some discussion on the other list about=20 > putting a valve on the inlet to prevent exhaust gas from going the=20 > wrong way when the airplane was not moving. That probably came from a=20= > misunderstanding of your concept. I really like the version you posted=20= > today. Jerry=A0 > Jerry, > =A0It is interesting how you find out about things after the fact. (ED=20= > if your monitoring please let me know if our info is correct) The=20 > entire idea of the VAM concept was to create a venturi to draw the=20 > cool air in! The reason for the donut fron section was it doubled as=20= > an end cap and an inlet bellmouth for the tube. Without the inside=20 > tube I am supprised the thing would draw air at all! I'll send you a=20= > close up drawing I sent PL's list off line. When you get your engine=20= > running it could be worth a re-try. I am supprised Ed missed the=20 > center tube, (if he did), he is a sharp guy and doesn't miss much. The=20= > other possibility is that he made it removable and they took it out=20 > prior to the test. > Bill Jepson --Apple-Mail-23-121200616 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bill, do you think the misunderstanding of the design was more widespread. I think PL did not grasp it either. My recollection back then did not include the center pipe but I could easily be wrong. I wrote Ed for clarification. More importantly, I like the design and if my system proves inadequate, I will build a version of yours.=20 Seems like the outlet opening around the tube where it enters the tailpipe might be restrictive. Jerry On Thursday, June 30, 2005, at 02:52 PM, wrjjrs@aol.com wrote: Bill, I did get the jpeg and I really like the concept. I never saw the original VAM. Ed told me about how it was chopped up to fit Tracy's test engine. I asked what was inside it and he said "nothing." =A0 Originally I can recall some discussion on the other list about putting a valve on the inlet to prevent exhaust gas from going the wrong way when the airplane was not moving. That probably came from a misunderstanding of your concept. I really like the version you posted today. Jerry=A0 Jerry, =A0It is interesting how you find out about things after the fact. (ED if your monitoring please let me know if our info is correct) The entire idea of the VAM concept was to create a venturi to draw the cool air in! The reason for the donut fron section was it doubled as an end cap and an inlet bellmouth for the tube. Without the inside tube I am supprised the thing would draw air at all! I'll send you a close up drawing I sent PL's list off line. When you get your engine running it could be worth a re-try. I am supprised Ed missed the center tube, (if he did), he is a sharp guy and doesn't miss much. The other possibility is that he made it removable and they took it out prior to the test. Bill Jepson = --Apple-Mail-23-121200616--