Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #24179
From: David Staten <Dastaten@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Injector Position (was Re: Making progress on Chris n Dave's Velocity Engine)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:07:28 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
The injection controller will be the Real World Solutions EC2. It does stage. No, you aren't wrong. That is what I want. It's not overly complicated when you dont have to build it from scratch.. thats why Im using the stock TB. The only thing I am having to fab is the runners and two injector bosses.
 
I am using stock fuel injector ports on the primaries (which are in the block). Those are less than 2 inches away from the primary intake ports. I will not be moving them.
 
As for secondary positioning, how far back can I go before I have to start worrying about the fuel charge not being inducted all the way into the secondary ports? As in... the fuel charge shot into the secondary runner (when secondaries are active) gets sucked all the way in on THAT intake stroke, and not, lets say.. the next one...Or are you saying that doesnt even matter? If injectors do better farther away from the port/way upstream, why are they not like that in the stock config? Several other EFI engines I've seen appear to inject RIGHT before the intake port (Noticed while shopping for intake parts), not way upstream...
 
It seems that the folks who have difficulty idling at low power smoothly are the ones who 1) dont sequence their airflow into primaries first, secondaries only at higher power... and who have their injectors 20 something inches away from the ports. Thats just an observation I've picked up over the past year... and maybe its mistaken.
 
Dave


Ian Dewhirst wrote:
Hi Dave, I don't know the details of your injection controller but I assume that you have the three barrel throttle body because you want to open the primary first and have the secondary injectors staged with the secondary barrels, that seems kind of complicated so I must be wrong.  At any rate I don't know that responsiveness is going to be an issue unless you really work the throttle.  You would get better atomization and free charge cooling if you moved the injectors away from the ports as far as possible.  Best of luck, looks good -- Ian 
-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of David Staten
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 7:21 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Injector Position (was Re: Making progress on Chris n Dave's Velocity Engine)

Responsiveness. . The stock secondary injector bosses are in the 6-8" range... I'd have to measure to be sure.
 
Dave

Ian Dewhirst wrote:
Hi Dave, why do you want the secondary injectors as close to the block as
possible? -- Ian

Dave wrote:

 ..... I want to put them within 6 inches of the block if at all possible,
closer the better, but want them to be in a relatively cool location.



  
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