X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.61] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 1001964 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:00:38 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.61; envelope-from=jerryhey@earthlink.net Received: from [65.176.160.101] (helo=earthlink.net) by smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DiHZf-0001Mo-B1 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:59:53 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Date:Subject:Content-Type:Mime-Version:From:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=lr0hxlwtTy49ETXthFS4ZgzijGA3nIdZYpd3zUfPm+boXGRAmwg5j4tReWWu0xd9; Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:01:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: fuel pump mounting ( fuel system architecture) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Jerry Hey To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <28889262-DD0F-11D9-9CE7-0003931B0C7A@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-ELNK-Trace: 8104856d7830ec6b1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec792a423ca5e5c6f4f2a3bd155384d9e563350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 65.176.160.101 Mark, would you please post a simple drawing of your fuel system including the bleed circuit. Thanks, Jerry On Tuesday, June 14, 2005, at 02:13 PM, Mark R Steitle wrote: > John, > At risk of repeating myself, I would like to add to John's comments. > > I ran a similar test, but included the rest of the fuel system (Andair > valve, fuel filters, fuel rail, fuel pressure regulator, etc.) and > found > out that my system would not reprime unless I cracked open a line > downstream of the pump. With the addition of the bypass bleed circuit, > I have confirmed that one dry pump will draw fuel up from the floor > (approx. 18") through the Andair valve and be up to pressure in about > 10 > seconds. "Time to prime" is significantly reduced by running both > pumps. I have repeated the test using auto fuel in hot Texas temps and > get similar results. > > Mark S. > Lancair ES w/20B > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On > Behalf Of John Slade > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:27 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: fuel pump mounting ( fuel system architecture) > >>> I did an experiment with the pump on a 4 foot bench, and a gas can >>> on the >>> floor. The pump primed itself with no difficulty. Having said that, >>> a >>> scenario like this in a plane would be just asking for vapor lock. >>> >> ----------------------------------------------- >> >> Hi John, I like your test but do not understand your conclusion. > The conclusion wasn't based on the results of the experiment :) > It's my understanding that you need to replicate the temperatures and > pressures for the experiment to be entirely valid. > >> If the pump will prime with a 4 foot negative head that sounds good to > me. > But this only proves it works on the bench under atmospheric pressure > and > ambient temperature. > > John > > > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >