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Bob,
You have just experienced one of the strange quirks of the 13B rotary
engine........After flooding it most often will not start without new plugs
even if the original plugs are very new and have been cleaned and dried
and the engine cranked to purge excess fuel !!
-- Kelly Troyer Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2
-------------- Original message from "Rogers, Bob J." <BRogers@FDIC.gov>: --------------
> I would like to share my recent experience of not being to start my > Mazda 13B rotary engine and the solution. > > I am building a Mustang II kitplane, powered by a 1987 Mazda Turbo > Engine. The engine was rebuilt by me and installed on the airframe > several months ago. It has an aftermarket 60-1 Turbo from Turbonetics. > The ignition and fuel controller, as well as the propeller reduction > unit, are from Tracy Crook's Real World Solutions. My first engine > start was several months ago and I have started the engine and run it at > idle and up to 2,500 rpm for up to 20 minutes at a time (all on the > ground) on numerous occasions. The engine has been starting and running > very nicely. The radiator and oil cooler seem to be working very well > even without any air flowing over them, because the engine does not > overheat on the ground for quite some time (up to 20 minutes). I do not > have a thermostat in the water cooling system, but the oil cooler > thermostat is still in place. I have not attached my propeller yet. > > About a month ago, I had some trouble starting the engine and it may > have gotten flooded. From that time until this last weekend, I could not > get the engine to start. I removed the plugs, wiped them off and dried > them, and cranked the engine to blow out all excess fuel. The plugs > were practically new with only a few hours of ground running on them. > They are very clean looking, but with some black around the ceramic > portion deep within the plug. Each plug fired when tested outside of > the engine. These are stock NGK plugs as specified for the engine. > > I tested each and every component of the engine electrical and fuel > system and found everything to be working properly. I put in new fuel, > checked the injectors for leaks and proper firing and confirmed that I > was getting 40 psi fuel pressure to the injectors. Timing was checked > and re-set. The engine still would not start. I could not even get one > little ignition event. Battery was fully charged and I used a jumper > cable from my car as a booster. Cranking speed was at its maximum. > Compression was 85 - 90 psi for each rotor face. > > In frustration, I e-mailed Tracy Crook, who suggested that I try starter > fluid and NEW plugs after I cranked the engine with plugs out to remove > any excess fuel. The starter fluid did no good when I tried the process > with my original (really clean looking and dry) plugs. > > However, when I took Tracy's advice and put in NEW plugs, the engine > started immediately and ran perfectly. I do not understand how a > flooded engine can make the plugs incapable of firing in the engine when > they fire just fine outside of the engine, especially when all of the > excess fuel has been blown out of the engine by cranking with the plugs > out. Maybe someone on the list can explain how this can happen. It is > a mystery to me. > > The lessons I learned are: > > 1. Listen to what Tracy says. He knows what he is talking about. > > 2. When you flood your engine and cannot get it to start again > after trying all the usual tricks, go ahead and spend a few extra bucks > for a NEW set of plugs. For some reason, the new plugs make all the > difference. > > 3. Always stop the engine by turning off the fuel pump, so that > there is no fuel pressure in the line. Otherwise, unburned fuel may > leak from the still pressurized injectors into the rotors and increase > the chances of hard starting or flooding the next time you try to start > the engine. > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html
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