X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [24.227.161.51] (HELO qnsi-xch.qnsi.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 1000180 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:17:14 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.227.161.51; envelope-from=bhughes@qnsi.net Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Return-Receipt-To: "Bobby J. Hughes" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C57023.1A0C9288" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] normalized supercharger? Disposition-Notification-To: "Bobby J. Hughes" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:20:50 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] normalized supercharger? Thread-Index: AcVvrf9+9/0EB8rBQ4eg9NnXA4MUlAAc2kIw From: "Bobby J. Hughes" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C57023.1A0C9288 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am planning to use an Eaton M62 blower for normalization. Basically the same configuration the Egg Subi's are running without the automatic waste gate controller only one size larger. In this configuration the TB goes in front of the SS and the waste gate is built into the blower. The waste gate will be controlled by a cable and will have to fly by MP. I calculated I would need to make 3.78 # of boost to achieve sea level pressure at 8000 ft. 4.5 #'s with an intercooler. So,,, I am going to install a larger SS pulley and a smaller crank pulley to limit the boost to 4.5 psi at 6500 rpms. No need to spin the SS any faster than necessary. My goal is to have a fuel efficient plane at cruse so boost above this altitude would be wasting fuel. This also putt's the Renesis and IO540 at about the same performance level at and above 8K.... only 125#'s lighter with a faster cowl. :) =20 I would like to look at an electronic waste gate controller but have not figured out how to build it yet. =20 Bobby RV10 ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Russell Duffy Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 7:14 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] normalized supercharger? Was Re: Is common sense dead (rant mode on) I will have a normalized Renesis, supercharged.=20 =20 Hi Mike, =20 How were you planning to normalize with the supercharger? =20 =20 I'm planning to put either a supercharger (what I'd prefer), or another turbo (shut up John ) on the RV-3, somewhere down the road. One of the drawbacks to the supercharger is the lack of boost control. I asked the ATI guys about controlling the boost via a valve on the outlet of the blower, but they said not to do that because it was bad to unload the blower. =20 =20 You can certainly control boost via throttle opening, and perhaps you can even do it via engine computer almost like a sort of rev limit. What's your plan? =20 =20 Cheers, Rusty (no flying today, due to work that sucks)=20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C57023.1A0C9288 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
I am planning to use an Eaton M62 blower for = normalization.=20 Basically the same configuration the Egg Subi's are running without the=20 automatic waste gate controller only one size larger. In this = configuration the=20 TB goes in front of the SS and the waste gate is built into the blower. = The=20 waste gate will be controlled by a cable and will have to fly by = MP.  I=20 calculated I would need to make 3.78 # of boost to achieve sea level = pressure at=20 8000 ft. 4.5 #'s with an intercooler. So,,, I am going to install a = larger SS=20 pulley and a smaller crank pulley to limit the boost to 4.5 psi at 6500 = rpms. No=20 need to spin the SS any faster than necessary. My goal is to have a fuel = efficient plane at cruse so boost above this altitude would be wasting = fuel.=20 This also putt's the Renesis and IO540 at about the same performance = level at=20 and above 8K.... only 125#'s lighter with a faster cowl. = :)
 
I would like to look at an electronic waste = gate controller=20 but have not figured out how to build it yet.
 
Bobby
RV10

From: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Russell=20 Duffy
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 7:14 PM
To: Rotary = motors=20 in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] normalized supercharger? Was = Re: Is=20 common sense dead (rant mode on)

I=20 will have a normalized Renesis, supercharged. 
 
Hi=20 Mike,
 
How were = you planning to=20 normalize with the supercharger? 
 
I'm planning to put either a = supercharger=20 (what I'd prefer), or another turbo (shut up John <g>) on the = RV-3,=20 somewhere down the road.  One of the drawbacks to=20 the supercharger is = the lack of=20 boost control.  I asked the ATI guys about controlling the boost = via a=20 valve on the outlet of the blower, but they said not to do that because = it was=20 bad to unload the blower. 
 
You can certainly control boost = via throttle=20 opening, and perhaps you can even do it via engine computer almost like = a sort=20 of rev limit.  What's your plan? 
 
Cheers,
Rusty (no flying today, due to = work that=20 sucks) 
 
 






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