X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [216.52.245.18] (HELO ispwestemail2.mdeinc.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 989486 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 22:51:17 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.52.245.18; envelope-from=wschertz@ispwest.com Received: from 7n7z201 (unverified [63.13.186.45]) by ispwestemail2.mdeinc.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.1.361.20) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 19:50:25 -0700 Message-ID: <022201c56c9d$f65a5e70$6401a8c0@7n7z201> From: "William" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: coolant leak Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:50:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_021F_01C56C74.0D240E00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_021F_01C56C74.0D240E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a liquid cooling system that has no *non-condensible* gas (i.e. air), = the pressure will rise due to thermal expansion of the liquid, until it = gets to the pressure relief value of the cap, at which pressure a small = amount of the expanding liquid will go into the overflow bottle. Upon cooling, the liquid volume shrinks, and the pressure decreases = until it is lower than that in the bottle, and liquid is sucked back = into the system. If the bottle is pressurized, then the pressure in the = system will only go down to the pressure of the bottle. This may be what = is being described in Dave's system.=20 Dave, do you have a *pressurized* overflow bottle? Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser # 4045 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: WALTER B KERR=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 9:31 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: coolant leak On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 19:05:25 -0700 al p wick writes: After you shut off your engine, the 7 psi gradually drops over the = next few minutes. It only takes around 12 minutes for the system to = develop a vacuum relative to atmosphere. At that point the little valve = in the radiator cap opens and allows fluid or air to flow into system. = (Check out your rad cap, can you find both valves?) --------------------------------------------- Al, if your cap is a 24 psi cap which you said you could run with = full bottle. Why does it develop a vacum on cool down. I have never = noticed this on my system, but on the other hand probably never looked = at it 12 minutes after shutdown ------=_NextPart_000_021F_01C56C74.0D240E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a liquid cooling system that has no=20 *non-condensible* gas (i.e. air), the pressure will rise due to thermal=20 expansion of the liquid, until it gets to the pressure relief value of = the cap,=20 at which pressure a small amount of the expanding liquid will go into = the=20 overflow bottle.
 
Upon cooling, the liquid volume = shrinks, and the=20 pressure decreases until it is lower than that in the bottle, and liquid = is=20 sucked back into the system.  If the bottle is pressurized, then = the=20 pressure in the system will only go down to the pressure of the bottle. = This may=20 be what is being described in Dave's system.
 
Dave, do you have a *pressurized* = overflow=20 bottle?
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser # = 4045
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 WALTER B = KERR
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 = 9:31=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = coolant=20 leak

 
 
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 19:05:25 -0700 al p wick <alwick@juno.com> writes:
 
 
After you shut off your engine, the 7 psi gradually drops = over the=20 next few minutes. It only takes around 12 minutes for the system to = develop=20 a vacuum relative to atmosphere. At that point the little valve in = the=20 radiator cap opens and allows fluid or air to flow into system. = (Check out=20 your rad cap, can you find both valves?)
 
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Al, if your cap is a 24 psi cap which you said you could run = with full=20 bottle. Why does it develop a vacum on cool down. I have never = noticed this=20 on my system, but on the other hand probably never looked at it 12 = minutes=20 after shutdown
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