Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #23081
From: Bobby J. Hughes <bhughes@qnsi.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Cast Iron Exhaust Manifold for Renesis
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:33:54 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Joe,
 
I did find one of Greedys distributors last week that said they could / would order it from Japan but he cost was over $800. From the pictures I found on the internet I could not determine the exact position of the exhaust exit. I have seen the kit pictures on the several web sites and the manifold looked different on some. I guess they are showing a generic turbo kit on some. I sent a email to Greedy yesterday requesting they post or send the technical manual for the RX8 kit as they have done for the other kits they sell. This was an effort to get the real picture of the manifold. I am not hopeful I will get a response. I did find out that the manifold exit curves up. I do not thank that will work for tractors but it might work for some pusher. Not sure.
 
Questions.
 
1. Would the exhaust exit location out the side close to center be the most adaptable for most of our applications? Using bends to route the exhaust up or down and to front or rear of engine. Something like the example manifold pic I posted yesterday. Will this work with the CCI and beam mounts?
 
2. What would provide better sound reduction. A manifold like the stock unit or one with separate pipes like the Greddy?
 
3. Durability.... Stock type of separate pipes like the Greddy?
 
4. What is a fair price for a quantity of 5 or 10?  $400-$500 each?
 
 
 
Thanks,
 
Bobby
 
 
 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:22 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cast Iron Exhaust Manifold for Renesis

Hi Bobby,
 I double checked my Renesis and the stock bolt pattern for the exhaust is definitely not symmetrical.  The upper bolt hole are much further from the centerline than the lower row of bolt holes.  Drilling and tapping a new set of top holes is not possible, a set of ports (EGR I believe) encroaches on the area that would be needed.  Short answer, does not look like a manifold could be made that is reversible.
 
Below is a picture of a manifold Greddy has made for their turbo kit for the RX-8.  They will not sell individual components nor will they to sell the kit to anyone who does not have an RX-8 automobile.  This configuration may work for both pusher and tractor applications.  Also note this is a turbo manifold (runners are kept separate until they reach the collector.)  While this is suited for turbo applications, it should work in non turbo applications.  From the turbo mounting plate: a turbo (internal wastegate) could be installed, or a exhaust pipe fabricated to vent overboard, as well as mufflers, etc.
 
Joe
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bobby J Hughes" <bhughes@qnsi.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 6:59 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cast Iron Exhaust Manifold for Renesis

Buly,

I got it now. I am not sure it will work. I ask Bruce T. once if I could
rotate the stock renesis manifold and his said it would not line up. I
believe the distance between the ports are different. Bruce has my
engine now so I will measure when it get back. Or....can someone else
take the measurement. I do not know how long it will take Bruce to
finish the mods.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of
atlasyts@bellsouth.net
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 5:34 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cast Iron Exhaust Manifold for Renesis

Must be my accent :)
You should be able to reverse (rotate) the manifold end to end, and
mount it so the single square flange be angled slightly up, or down.
Don't make me draw you a picture. I won't do it :) Buly
>
> From: "Bobby J. Hughes" <
bhughes@qnsi.net>
> Date: 2005/06/03 Fri PM 06:32:11 EDT
> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <
flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cast Iron Exhaust Manifold for Renesis
>
> Buly,
> "Make it so it can be nounted with the square flange facing up or
> dowm.".....
>
> You lost me....
>
> Bobby
>


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