X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.65] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 984337 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 04:13:28 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.65; envelope-from=Dastaten@earthlink.net Received: from [24.238.206.157] (helo=earthlink.net) by smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DeTlo-0006h0-RT for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 04:12:41 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:X-Accept-Language:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rM7n7wTGNnuIwf1M8gW3BYB7mWWnOPkNlhnkNT4Ts2CCJtSpCXb0raDHdgh/4bin; Message-ID: <42A161F8.8030407@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 03:10:32 -0500 From: David Staten User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary risks References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 9a30bff84e6cb88f95c85d38d22416599ef193a6bfc3dd483cc7ec8093af8c4321f54872896ca6ab396bf6a0aafa7dc0350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.238.206.157 I concur... when something goes wrong, the ideas/potential failure points start flowing out in free discussion. Some are dismissed, some get a lot of weight, and some are never validated nor disproved. Part of what makes this such a successful online community is that we exchange ideas freely, and usually objectively. I hope to see things progress to the point that folks who DONT want to do the engineering/experimenting will have bolt on options available to them in the near future: Its coming - between finished blocks from Bruce, intakes from Bruce, Mounts from CCI, Electronics and gearboxes from Tracy.. its starting to take on the appearance of a quasi-firewall forward (or aft) option. Even if that point occurs, there will always be someone wanting to "do it better" or get a bit more performance by customizing, or just trying a different approach. I will acknowledge there is more than one way to skin a cat.. I just want to be able to make cat skinning as safe and risk free as PRACTICAL. Dave Ernest Christley wrote: > al p wick wrote: > >> When you guys review the past incidents, are you able to find multiple >> causes? Are you able find how it applies to your plane, or tend to think >> "That doesn't apply to me.....?". >> > > Oh, no. Trust me on this one. NOBODY gets away with that one. > > You could fill a book with the number of possible causes this list > came up with for Ed's latest 'adventure'. And that has hopefully been > folded back in to positive steps that people who've been following can > take to improve their success and reliability. > > One thing you could not be aware of is the latest discussion on > forming and 'inspection' organization. The biggest objection to it > has been the idea of 'approved systems'. Nobody wants it like that. > It is a very independant group over here. As soon as someone comes up > with an optimized cnc manifold, a few will buy it and a whole bunch of > others will say they're trying something different. We're kinda weird > like that. Go figure. >