X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail.theofficenet.com ([65.166.240.5] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with SMTP id 982003 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 10:31:43 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.166.240.5; envelope-from=jackoford@theofficenet.com Received: (qmail 10556 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2005 14:28:53 -0000 Received: from dpc691941229.direcpc.com (HELO jack) (69.19.41.229) by mail.theofficenet.com with SMTP; 2 Jun 2005 14:28:53 -0000 Message-ID: <009c01c5677f$7d831fa0$6601a8c0@jack> From: "Jack Ford" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: [Fwd: COZY: Rotary risks] Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 07:29:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 When Al Wick speaks, it is wise to listen, even if you don't agree. He has much to teach us. He has an entirely different, rational, take on risk assessment and management. Suggest that you Google for his web site. Jack Ford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Dewhirst" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:25 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: [Fwd: COZY: Rotary risks] > I suppose that the signature line "Artificial intelligence in cockpit" says > it all... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On > Behalf Of atlasyts@bellsouth.net > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:09 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] [Fwd: COZY: Rotary risks] > > > You guys are in trouble: > > > > From: al p wick > > Date: 2005/06/01 Wed PM 05:53:06 EDT > > To: Cozy_Builders@mailman.qth.net > > Subject: COZY: Rotary risks > > > > I'm part way thru measuring Rotary risks. Using Tracy's newsletters as > > basis(what a neat guy). One thing is abundantly clear, it is a very high > > risk install. Substantially higher than the Lycoming. I know this is > > going to upset a lot of people. I don't want to remain silent when I have > > facts that may save a life. > > Each change you make to a system increases your risk. Tons of changes. > > Marginal cooling of oil and water 6+ years later. Having to watch > > something is a root cause of pilot oversight. > > High shut down risk of his EFI system(too bad, as his EFI could be a huge > > risk reduction if designed differently). > > Repeat root cause failures to design changes... the same pattern to all > > the failures. > > > > Doesn't mean don't use rotary, Perry had much lower risk as he didn't > > modify all those systems. It means, if you go that route, you better make > > sure you use every skill you can muster to anticipate failures and > > qualify each change while on the ground. > > > > I'll itemize the risk items in future, too many pans in fire right now. I > > also have to look at other info sources. > > > > Risk is not measured by how many moving components you have. That is > > propaganda. As are terms like "hand grenade" and "melting aluminum". It's > > the total system that counts. > > > > Fire away! > > > > -al wick > > Artificial intelligence in cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock Subaru 2.5 > > N9032U 200+ hours on engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon > > Prop construct, Subaru install, Risk assessment, Glass panel design info: > > http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html > > > > On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:13:16 -0700 "Keith N91KS" > > writes: > > The rotary guys are coming in much lighter and > > > the reliability of those engines sounds like they have made great > > > improvements. > > > > > > > Keith > > > Cozy N91KS > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Cozy_builders mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/cozy_builders > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > > Post: mailto:Cozy_builders@mailman.qth.net > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >