X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [64.4.51.89] (HELO hotmail.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.2) with ESMTP id 962544 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 24 May 2005 21:05:01 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.4.51.89; envelope-from=lors01@msn.com Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 24 May 2005 18:04:16 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.51.220 by BAY107-DAV17.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 25 May 2005 01:04:16 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [64.4.51.220] X-Originating-Email: [lors01@msn.com] X-Sender: lors01@msn.com From: "Tracy Crook" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 problems ( Warranty work) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 21:04:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C560A4.22B5CCD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 24 May 2005 21:04:12 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 May 2005 01:04:16.0222 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC1B47E0:01C560C5] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C560A4.22B5CCD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bernie, I've missed a bunch of messages due to time constraints so I = missed seeing what the starting problem you were having was. What fixed = it? Yep, RWS has to start paying its way. Laura has been subsidizing it for = a long time but she recently quit the computer consulting biz (which she = was very good at) to work here full time. =20 Tracy (sending John home with his box of repaired stuff) John Slade wrote: Good and bad news snipped This might save you a LOT of warranty work. Regards, John I just want to point out that "warranty work" usually covers only = defects in workmanship of the manufacturer. Not the mistakes of a novice = or non-pro installer. Not to disrespect you, John, but I would be VERY = gracious that Tracy has done so much "free" work supporting your = install. I can only hope and pray I am not quite the beta tester you are = :). =20 Good luck.. lets get it flying again! Dave ----------------------------------Dave,=20 I agree with your statements and do not believe that Tracy can = continue to provide support in his current fashion. He has been = unbelievably gracious to me. It was not a wiring mistake that burned my = chips in the EC2 but I believe a faulty DPDT switch, but Tracy changed = them out without a wimper to me (OK maybe to Laura). Once again, think he could save himself and maybe customers later on = the grief of fixing burned parts if there was better ( read for = illiterate electronics dummies) documentation and warnings regarding = faulty wiring. I really appreciate what Bill D wrote: When you are dealing with an expensive piece of = electronics, don't=20 be in a hurry to turn on the power. =20 1) Never work without a wiring diagram. Make your own if needed. 2) Carefully label each end of every wire as you lay it in place in = the loom. 3) Double check the labels. 4) As you connect the device. Double check each connection against = the=20 wiring diagram. 5) Before you connect a wire, check it with the multi-meter, if = possible. 6) Check off each wire on the diagram as you connect it. 7) Come back a few minutes later and check everything one more time. 8) Check anything you can with a multi-meter before you turn on the = power. 9) If it is a very expensive device, have a buddy double check your = work=20 before you turn on the power. =20 =20 =20 Think about how long you worked to earn the money to pay = for the=20 device. Take an extra hour or so to make sure that you have the = wires=20 connected correctly so you won't have to pay for the device a second = time. =20 =20 Off my soapbox and out to fly the 9A around the patch in 90 degree = temps, Bernie =20 ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C560A4.22B5CCD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Bernie,  I've missed a bunch of messages due to time = constraints so=20 I missed seeing what the starting problem you were having was.  = What fixed=20 it?
 
Yep, RWS has to start paying its way.  Laura has been = subsidizing it=20 for a long time but she recently quit the computer consulting biz (which = she was=20 very good at) to work here full time. 
 
Tracy  (sending John home with his box of repaired = stuff)
 
 
John Slade wrote:
Good and bad news snipped
This might save you a LOT of warranty=20 work.
 
Regards,
John

I just want = to point out=20 that "warranty work" usually covers only defects in workmanship of = the=20 manufacturer. Not the mistakes of a novice or non-pro installer. Not = to=20 disrespect you, John, but I would be VERY gracious that Tracy has = done so=20 much "free" work supporting your install. I can only hope and pray I = am not=20 quite the beta tester you are :).
 
Good luck.. lets get = it=20 flying again!
Dave

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Dave,
I agree with your statements and do not believe that Tracy can = continue=20 to provide support in his current fashion. He has been unbelievably = gracious=20 to me. It was not a wiring mistake that burned my chips in the EC2 = but I=20 believe a faulty DPDT switch, but Tracy changed them out without a = wimper to=20 me (OK maybe to Laura).
 
Once again, think he could save himself and maybe customers = later on=20 the grief of fixing burned parts if there was better ( read for = illiterate=20 electronics dummies) documentation and warnings regarding faulty=20 wiring.
 
I really appreciate what Bill D wrote:
 
         When you are = dealing=20 with an expensive piece of electronics, don't
be in a hurry to = turn on=20 the power.
 
1) Never work without a wiring diagram. Make = your=20 own if needed.
2) Carefully label each end of every wire as you = lay it in=20 place in the loom.
3) Double check the labels.
4) As you = connect the=20 device. Double check each connection against the
wiring = diagram.
5)=20 Before you connect a wire, check it with the multi-meter, if = possible.
6)=20 Check off each wire on the diagram as you connect it.
7) Come = back a few=20 minutes later and check everything one more time.
8) Check = anything you=20 can with a multi-meter before you turn on the power.
9) If it is = a very=20 expensive device, have a buddy double check your work
before you = turn on=20 the=20 = power.
 
 
 
     &nb= sp;  =20 Think about how long you worked to earn the money to pay for the =
device.=20 Take an extra hour or so to make sure that you have the wires =
connected=20 correctly so you won't have to pay for the device a second=20 time.
 
     
Off my soapbox and out to fly the 9A around the patch in = 90=20 degree temps,
Bernie
 
 
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