X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from m15.nyc.untd.com ([64.136.22.78] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.2) with SMTP id 961999 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 24 May 2005 13:41:21 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.136.22.78; envelope-from=jbker@juno.com Received: from m15.nyc.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m15.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AABBKG3ZVAFESYYS for (sender ); Tue, 24 May 2005 10:40:03 -0700 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: Y+Mfppm2QyGfnY/dq+iW1cyNECalTqB8fmZC8pkU9pCoJvXvRDSIGA== Received: (from jbker@juno.com) by m15.nyc.untd.com (jqueuemail) id KTSKN5RR; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:39:45 PDT To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 13:37:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 problems ( Warranty work) Message-ID: <20050524.133742.3320.7.JBKER@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--__JNP_000_6ed2.5020.2ccb X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 8-6,7-8,10-23,28-34,39-40,43-46,48-51,53-59,61-66,68-69,71-75,76-32767 From: WALTER B KERR X-ContentStamp: 20:10:3552753621 X-MAIL-INFO:121941e94975f5ed69b425f56500258939f58d353154b9e1b41d X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|m15.nyc.untd.com|jbker@juno.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_6ed2.5020.2ccb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 24 May 2005 09:20:44 -0500 David Staten writes: John Slade wrote: . Good and bad news snipped This might save you a LOT of warranty work. Regards, John I just want to point out that "warranty work" usually covers only defects in workmanship of the manufacturer. Not the mistakes of a novice or non-pro installer. Not to disrespect you, John, but I would be VERY gracious that Tracy has done so much "free" work supporting your install. I can only hope and pray I am not quite the beta tester you are :). Good luck.. lets get it flying again! Dave ---------------------------------- Dave, I agree with your statements and do not believe that Tracy can continue to provide support in his current fashion. He has been unbelievably gracious to me. It was not a wiring mistake that burned my chips in the EC2 but I believe a faulty DPDT switch, but Tracy changed them out without a wimper to me (OK maybe to Laura). Once again, think he could save himself and maybe customers later on the grief of fixing burned parts if there was better ( read for illiterate electronics dummies) documentation and warnings regarding faulty wiring. I really appreciate what Bill D wrote: When you are dealing with an expensive piece of electronics, don't be in a hurry to turn on the power. 1) Never work without a wiring diagram. Make your own if needed. 2) Carefully label each end of every wire as you lay it in place in the loom. 3) Double check the labels. 4) As you connect the device. Double check each connection against the wiring diagram. 5) Before you connect a wire, check it with the multi-meter, if possible. 6) Check off each wire on the diagram as you connect it. 7) Come back a few minutes later and check everything one more time. 8) Check anything you can with a multi-meter before you turn on the power. 9) If it is a very expensive device, have a buddy double check your work before you turn on the power. Think about how long you worked to earn the money to pay for the device. Take an extra hour or so to make sure that you have the wires connected correctly so you won't have to pay for the device a second time. Off my soapbox and out to fly the 9A around the patch in 90 degree temps, Bernie ----__JNP_000_6ed2.5020.2ccb Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, 24 May 2005 09:20:44 -0500 David Staten <Dastaten@earthlink.net>=20 writes:

John Slade wrote:

.
Good and bad news snipped

This&= nbsp;might=20 save you a LOT of warranty work.

Regards,

John

I just want to = point out=20 that "warranty work" usually covers only defects in workmanship of the=20 manufacturer. Not the mistakes of a novice or non-pro installer. Not to=20 disrespect you, John, but I would be VERY gracious that Tracy has done so= much=20 "free" work supporting your install. I can only hope and pray I am not = quite=20 the beta tester you are :).

Good luck.. lets get it flying=20 again!
Dave
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Dave,

I agree with your statements and do not believe that Tracy can = continue=20 to provide support in his current fashion. He has been unbelievably = gracious=20 to me. It was not a wiring mistake that burned my chips in the EC2 but I= =20 believe a faulty DPDT switch, but Tracy changed them out without a wimper= to=20 me (OK maybe to Laura).

Once again, think he could save himself and maybe customers later on= the=20 grief of fixing burned parts if there was better ( read for illiterate=20 electronics dummies) documentation and warnings regarding faulty wiring.<= /DIV>

I really appreciate what Bill D wrote:

         When you are = dealing=20 with an expensive piece of electronics, don't
be in a hurry to turn = on the=20 power.

1) Never work without a wiring diagram. Make your own= if=20 needed.
2) Carefully label each end of every wire as you lay it in = place in=20 the loom.
3) Double check the labels.
4) As you connect the device.= =20 Double check each connection against the
wiring diagram.
5) Before= you=20 connect a wire, check it with the multi-meter, if possible.
6) Check = off=20 each wire on the diagram as you connect it.
7) Come back a few minutes= =20 later and check everything one more time.
8) Check anything you can = with a=20 multi-meter before you turn on the power.
9) If it is a very expensive= =20 device, have a buddy double check your work
before you turn on the=20 power.

     &= nbsp;  =20 Think about how long you worked to earn the money to pay for the
= device.=20 Take an extra hour or so to make sure that you have the wires
= connected=20 correctly so you won't have to pay for the device a second=20 time.



Off my soapbox and out to fly the 9A around the patch in 90=20 degree temps,

Bernie

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