X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from access.aic-fl.com ([204.49.76.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.2) with ESMTP id 961393 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:34:07 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.49.76.2; envelope-from=unicorn@gdsys.net Received: from b9k4u9 (unverified [204.49.76.36]) by access.aic-fl.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:32:48 -0500 Message-ID: <002901c56011$be90fa50$244c31cc@b9k4u9> From: "Richard Sohn" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Technical Advisor Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 20:36:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01C55FD7.0EFD8430" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C55FD7.0EFD8430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Georges, the 12A pump is way to small for the 13B. According to the spec. the 12A = pump is pumping 2.0 - 2.5 cc in 6 minutes on its two lines with the = engine running at 2000RPM.=20 The 13B NT does 4.5-5.5 cc on two lines in 5 minutes engine running at = 2000RPM. The Turbo setting does 5.2 - 6.6 under the same condition.=20 One more thing, if you use the OMP. You must retain the injector valves = sitting on the rotor housing and the intake manifold. Their vacuum line = is hooked up to the intake plenum. These valves do the oil injection, = the OMP only supplies the oil! I hope this answers the question. Richard Sohn N-2071U ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Echo Lake Fishing Resort (Georges Boucher)=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 10:46 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Technical Advisor Thank you Kelly, If anyone knows the output of the pumps please = let us know. Georges B.=20 -------Original Message------- From: Rotary motors in aircraft Date: 05/23/05 09:50:39 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Technical Advisor Georges and Earnest, Early 12A pumps were 2 port and have different bolt spacing = than the 13B mechanical pump........Richard Sohn informed me the 13B mech. pump is = adaptable to the early 12A front cover with the drilling and tapping for one extra bolt or = stud and utilizing one of the original mount points.......This also allows for the use of = Richard's remote 2 cycle oil sump adapter if that is your choice.......I cannot comment on the = quantity of oil dispensed by these pumps.......FWIW -- Kelly Troyer=20 Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2=20 -------------- Original message from Ernest Christley = : --------------=20 > Echo Lake Fishing Resort (Georges Boucher) wrote:=20 >=20 > > Ernest=20 > > I'm thinking of using a late 12a front cover (to use the = mounting=20 > > points on the cover) do you know if the 2 port injection = pump=20 > > produces dispenses the same quantity of oil as the 4 port = unit?=20 > > Georges B.=20 > >=20 > >=20 >=20 > I didn't know there was such a thing as a two port pump, = George. I was=20 > going to to block off two of the ports and run the injectors = in the block.=20 >=20 > --=20 > ,|"|"|, |=20 > ----=3D=3D=3D<{{(oQo)}}>=3D=3D=3D---- Dyke Delta |=20 > o| d |o www.ernest.isa-geek.org |=20 =20 =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 5/22/2005 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C55FD7.0EFD8430 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Georges,
 
the 12A pump is way to small for the 13B. According = to the=20 spec. the 12A pump is pumping 2.0 - 2.5 cc  in 6 minutes on its two = lines=20 with the engine running at 2000RPM.
The 13B NT does 4.5-5.5 cc on two lines in 5 minutes = engine=20 running at 2000RPM. The Turbo setting does 5.2 - 6.6 under the same = condition.=20
One more thing, if you use the OMP. You must retain = the=20 injector valves sitting on the rotor housing and the intake manifold. = Their=20 vacuum line is hooked up to the intake plenum. These valves do the oil=20 injection, the OMP only supplies the oil!
I hope this answers the question.
 
Richard Sohn
N-2071U
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Echo=20 Lake Fishing Resort (Georges Boucher)
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 = 10:46 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Technical=20 Advisor

Thank you Kelly, If anyone knows the output of the = pumps=20 please let us know.
Georges B. 
 
-------Original=20 Message-------
 
From: Rotary motors in=20 aircraft
Date: = 05/23/05=20 09:50:39
To: Rotary motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary]=20 Re: Technical Advisor
 
Georges and Earnest,
     Early 12A pumps were 2 port and = have=20 different bolt spacing than the 13B mechanical
pump........Richard Sohn informed me the 13B mech. pump is=20 adaptable to the early 12A
front cover with the drilling and tapping for one extra = bolt or=20 stud and utilizing one of the
original mount points.......This also allows for the use of = Richard's remote 2 cycle oil sump
adapter if that is your choice.......I cannot comment on = the=20 quantity of oil dispensed by
these pumps.......FWIW
--
Kelly Troyer =
Dyke=20 Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2




--------------=20 Original message from Ernest Christley = <echristley@nc.rr.com>:=20 --------------


> Echo Lake Fishing Resort = (Georges=20 Boucher) wrote:
>
> > Ernest
> > I'm = thinking=20 of using a late 12a front cover (to use the mounting
> = >=20 points on the cover) do you know if the 2 port injection pump =
>=20 > produces dispenses the same quantity of oil as the 4 port = unit?=20
> > Georges B.
> >
> >
> =
> I=20 didn't know there was such a thing as a two port pump, George. I = was=20
> going to to block off two of the ports and run the = injectors in=20 the block.
>
> --
> ,|"|"|, |
>=20 ----=3D=3D=3D<{{(oQo)}}>=3D=3D=3D---- Dyke Delta | =
> o| d |o=20 www.ernest.isa-geek.org |
 

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