X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [199.185.220.240] (HELO priv-edtnes46.telusplanet.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.2) with ESMTP id 960537 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:35:51 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=199.185.220.240; envelope-from=echolakeresort@telus.net Received: from boucher-oddle24 ([207.194.26.5]) by priv-edtnes46.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20050523153503.GBRT19994.priv-edtnes46.telusplanet.net@boucher-oddle24> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:35:03 -0600 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.322 [266.11.15]); Mon, 23 May 2005 08:35:00 -0700 Message-Id: <4291F81F.000003.02708@BOUCHER-ODDLE24> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 08:34:55 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail (3001609) From: "Echo Lake Fishing Resort (Georges Boucher)" References: To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Technical Advisor X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-Priority: 3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-4291F8244FC4=======" --=======AVGMAIL-4291F8244FC4======= Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_7M8YG6G0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_7M8YG6G0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ernest=0D I'm thinking of using a late 12a front cover (to use the mounting points = on the cover) do you know if the 2 port injection pump produces dispenses th= e same quantity of oil as the 4 port unit?=0D Georges B. =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: Rotary motors in aircraft=0D Date: 05/23/05 06:45:49=0D To: Rotary motors in aircraft=0D Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Technical Advisor=0D =0D Jerry Hey wrote:=0D =0D > I realize I am the only voice that is not enthusiastic about the=0D > formation of the safety police. Jerry=0D >=0D =0D You're not alone in that concern, Jerry. But I believe we can avoid=0D the role of 'safety police'. It is very much a matter of attitude.=0D =0D George has a good point. It will be very difficult to come into a=0D builder's shop a few days before a first flight and have any expectation=0D that he will give any credence to a list of safety items. Just think,=0D the guy has probably spent YEARS mulling over the position of every=0D little ancillary bit, and here you come at the last second and tell him=0D it's all wrong! (Even if it is just one piece, he'll feel like you're=0D saying it's all wrong.) As Ed has stated, final inspection is NOT the=0D time to get involved. At that point you're a hurdle, an obstacle to=0D overcome before the builder can slip the surly bonds.=0D =0D The time for involvement is while the builder is still mulling. There=0D must be a dozen major changes that I've made from information I've=0D learned here. Case in point, I'm re-installing the oil metering pump=0D (but with only two of the oil injectors), and will plan on running a=0D reduced amount of 2-cycle based on Lynn's advice. The decision was easy=0D to make, because I haven't built up an entire system that would exclude=0D it. For a while, I was planning on installing radiators in the rear of=0D the aircraft. Then I did a 180 and decided to move them up front like=0D everyone else. Steve Brooks came over to look at my project and we=0D talked about it. Now I'm planning on radiators at the rear again, and a=0D whole slew of issues are simpler because of that decision.=0D =0D In fact, my engine installation has been basically static for several=0D months. But I bought an 13B last week and stripped it for parts, so=0D that a lot of progress is being made really fast. If there are any=0D willing souls, I'd like to volunteer to be the guinea pig and explore=0D the format and methodology of how 'inspections' would work. How will=0D information be presented (verbal, written report, ???) to the builder?=0D How will the results be fed back to the organization (will the results=0D be fed back to the organization)? It's not hard to forsee the inspectors=0D having concerns about an novel technique, but the builder either finds=0D it excellent in practice or it's a dud like the inspectors say. How=0D will the concerns and results be archived.=0D =0D I also think the group needs a motto to keep attitudes in check.=0D Something to keep people from thinking they ever have police powers.=0D Something to be stated before and after an inspection, just to set the=0D mood and make the purpose clear to everyone. I propose:=0D =0D "What ya' gonna' do now?"=0D =0D --=0D ,|"|"|, |=0D ----=3D=3D=3D<{{(oQo)}}>=3D=3D=3D---- Dyke Delta |=0D o| d |o www.ernest.isa-geek.org |=0D =0D >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/=0D >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html=0D =0D =0D --=0D No virus found in this incoming message.=0D Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.=0D Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 5/22/2005=0D =0D =2E --------------Boundary-00=_7M8YG6G0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ernest
I'm thinking of using a late 12a front cover (to use the mounting po= ints on the cover) do you know if the 2 port injection pump produces = ;dispenses the same quantity of oil as the 4 port unit?
Georges B. 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 05/23/05 06:= 45:49
Subject: [FlyRotar= y] Re: Technical Advisor
 
Jerry Hey wrote:
 
>  I realize I am the only voice that is not enthusiast= ic about the
> formation of the safety police. Jerry
>
 
You're not alone in that concern, Jerry.  But I believe we= can avoid
the role of 'safety police'.  It is very much a matter of = attitude.
 
George has a good point.  It will be very difficult to com= e into a
builder's shop a few days before a first flight and have any expecta= tion
that he will give any credence to a list of safety items.  = ;Just think,
the guy has probably spent YEARS mulling over the position of every<= /DIV>
little ancillary bit, and here you come at the last second and tell = him
it's all wrong! (Even if it is just one piece, he'll feel like you'r= e
saying it's all wrong.)  As Ed has stated, final inspectio= n is NOT the
time to get involved.  At that point you're a hurdle, an o= bstacle to
overcome before the builder can slip the surly bonds.
 
The time for involvement is while the builder is still mulling. = ; There
must be a dozen major changes that I've made from information I've
learned here.  Case in point, I'm re-installing the oil me= tering pump
(but with only two of the oil injectors), and will plan on running a=
reduced amount of 2-cycle based on Lynn's advice.  The dec= ision was easy
to make, because I haven't built up an entire system that would excl= ude
it.  For a while, I was planning on installing radiators i= n the rear of
the aircraft.  Then I did a 180 and decided to move them u= p front like
everyone else.  Steve Brooks came over to look at my proje= ct and we
talked about it.  Now I'm planning on radiators at the rea= r again, and a
whole slew of issues are simpler because of that decision.
 
In fact, my engine installation has been basically static for severa= l
months.  But I bought an 13B last week and stripped it for= parts, so
that a  lot of progress is being made really fast. &n= bsp;If there are any
willing souls, I'd like to volunteer to be the guinea pig and explor= e
the format and methodology of how 'inspections' would work. &nb= sp;How will
information be presented (verbal, written report, ???) to the builde= r?
How will the results be fed back to the organization (will the resul= ts
be fed back to the organization)? It's not hard to forsee the inspec= tors
having concerns about an novel technique, but the builder either fin= ds
it excellent in practice or it's a dud like the inspectors say. = ; How
will the concerns and results be archived.
 
I also think the group needs a motto to keep attitudes in check.
Something to keep people from thinking they ever have police powers.=
Something to be stated before and after an inspection, just to set t= he
mood and make the purpose clear to everyone.  I propose:
 
"What ya' gonna' do now?"
 
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